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<blockquote data-quote="yobuck" data-source="post: 1373509" data-attributes="member: 12443"><p>HEY, I admire it that way also, and frankly at my age, 83ish I have no choice but to continue that way. I have for almost 20 years now been driving 2 long days each way alone, just so I can enjoy what we do.</p><p>Enjoying it is all that's left for me, but I have to also admit that I enjoyed it more when I was seeing more deer than we are seeing now. I'm sure Kevin feels the same since our camps are only about 1/2 mile apart on the same road.</p><p>I sold my big heavy 20x120 jap glasses about 25 years ago for $2000, because there are better ones (for what we do). I have them, and so does Kevin and a whole bunch of others in that area.</p><p>The issue however isn't the quality of the l/r hunters, or the type equiptment, or the ability of at least most of them in using it. </p><p></p><p>I also now drive about 1800 miles each way to shoot prairie dogs, because of how bad the PA groundhog hunting has become. Actually I guess we could agree the hunting part hasent changed much, but the</p><p>shooting them part sure has at least with the big equiptment.</p><p>For years now the most successful groundhog hunters are the ones who walk the wood edges and take the closer shots. We could argue why, but that's not going to matter. Facts are what they are, and those that adjust shoot groundhogs, and those that don't, don't shoot very many at long ranges like they used to.</p><p> I personaly feel that l/r deer hunting is headed in the same direction, regardless as to how any of us prefer or need it to be otherwise.</p><p>So on that point we can agree, enjoy what you enjoy for whatever reason you enjoy it.</p><p>How bout we shoot some rocks, range that big one and see if it moved any since last time.</p><p>I know some guys who were up in Smith hollow a few years back that took 21 sighter shots at rocks. But then they only needed 2 to kill the deer. lol</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yobuck, post: 1373509, member: 12443"] HEY, I admire it that way also, and frankly at my age, 83ish I have no choice but to continue that way. I have for almost 20 years now been driving 2 long days each way alone, just so I can enjoy what we do. Enjoying it is all that's left for me, but I have to also admit that I enjoyed it more when I was seeing more deer than we are seeing now. I'm sure Kevin feels the same since our camps are only about 1/2 mile apart on the same road. I sold my big heavy 20x120 jap glasses about 25 years ago for $2000, because there are better ones (for what we do). I have them, and so does Kevin and a whole bunch of others in that area. The issue however isn't the quality of the l/r hunters, or the type equiptment, or the ability of at least most of them in using it. I also now drive about 1800 miles each way to shoot prairie dogs, because of how bad the PA groundhog hunting has become. Actually I guess we could agree the hunting part hasent changed much, but the shooting them part sure has at least with the big equiptment. For years now the most successful groundhog hunters are the ones who walk the wood edges and take the closer shots. We could argue why, but that's not going to matter. Facts are what they are, and those that adjust shoot groundhogs, and those that don't, don't shoot very many at long ranges like they used to. I personaly feel that l/r deer hunting is headed in the same direction, regardless as to how any of us prefer or need it to be otherwise. So on that point we can agree, enjoy what you enjoy for whatever reason you enjoy it. How bout we shoot some rocks, range that big one and see if it moved any since last time. I know some guys who were up in Smith hollow a few years back that took 21 sighter shots at rocks. But then they only needed 2 to kill the deer. lol [/QUOTE]
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