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Politics Of Hunting & Guns (NOT General Politics)
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<blockquote data-quote="INTJ1" data-source="post: 1422939" data-attributes="member: 34312"><p>The vote will get on the ballot but it's not likely to pass. That said, this is no time to be complacent.</p><p></p><p>Timber companies are not "corruptly" locking up land. What started the shutting down of PRIVATE timberland is the Moonlight fire in CA in 2007. The fire started on Sierra Pacific's land and they were fined $8 Mil by the state, $55 Mil by the Feds, and they gave the Feds 22,500 acres of forest land.</p><p></p><p>Now fires start all the time on public land—which is usually poorly maintained—and then spread to private land. The private companies are not given funds or land when that happens. Regardless, the when Sierra Pine paid the settlement in 2012 it spooked timber companies and they all started severely restricting access.</p><p></p><p>Further, timber companies cannot lock up public land. They can restrict access to their own land and land they have leased. There are plenty of times when I drive through timber company land to public land.</p><p></p><p>The timber companies aren't the bad guys, the government is the bad guy in all this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="INTJ1, post: 1422939, member: 34312"] The vote will get on the ballot but it’s not likely to pass. That said, this is no time to be complacent. Timber companies are not “corruptly” locking up land. What started the shutting down of PRIVATE timberland is the Moonlight fire in CA in 2007. The fire started on Sierra Pacific’s land and they were fined $8 Mil by the state, $55 Mil by the Feds, and they gave the Feds 22,500 acres of forest land. Now fires start all the time on public land—which is usually poorly maintained—and then spread to private land. The private companies are not given funds or land when that happens. Regardless, the when Sierra Pine paid the settlement in 2012 it spooked timber companies and they all started severely restricting access. Further, timber companies cannot lock up public land. They can restrict access to their own land and land they have leased. There are plenty of times when I drive through timber company land to public land. The timber companies aren’t the bad guys, the government is the bad guy in all this. [/QUOTE]
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