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<blockquote data-quote="73driver" data-source="post: 1630283" data-attributes="member: 36473"><p>The 30-06 is a HAMMER with 180 pills. I won a 300WM MOD70 classic at a RMEF dinner and shot it some at the range looking for ammo that would group well. After about 150 rounds and reviewing load data from Speer manual early 90's I decided that the 300 was unpleasant to shoot during practice/sighting in/load development and I could get hand loaded 06 180's within 100/150 fps of factory MAG ammo. Ended up with 30-06 WIN MOD70 Classic SS that launched 180's at 2825fbs using book loads and getting 1-1.25 inch groups. Does 150/200fps matter? When trying to nail down Elk heck yeah every bit matters. Also 06 launches 165's faster than 308. Don't see that long action over short action matters that much, matters a heck of a lot less than 200fps difference. I hunted with 708 MODSeven REM for a few years and liked it fine, nice compact handy good to cary set up but now I hunt with 270WIN its just hard to not love 140grs [USER=61070]@3000fps[/USER] (708 won't do that). So like the 708 the 308 is great especially set in a nice compact MOD Seven REM. For me an 8lbs 30-06 or 270 delivering pills 200 fps faster for manageable recoil is "better" in my book.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="73driver, post: 1630283, member: 36473"] The 30-06 is a HAMMER with 180 pills. I won a 300WM MOD70 classic at a RMEF dinner and shot it some at the range looking for ammo that would group well. After about 150 rounds and reviewing load data from Speer manual early 90's I decided that the 300 was unpleasant to shoot during practice/sighting in/load development and I could get hand loaded 06 180's within 100/150 fps of factory MAG ammo. Ended up with 30-06 WIN MOD70 Classic SS that launched 180's at 2825fbs using book loads and getting 1-1.25 inch groups. Does 150/200fps matter? When trying to nail down Elk heck yeah every bit matters. Also 06 launches 165's faster than 308. Don't see that long action over short action matters that much, matters a heck of a lot less than 200fps difference. I hunted with 708 MODSeven REM for a few years and liked it fine, nice compact handy good to cary set up but now I hunt with 270WIN its just hard to not love 140grs [USER=61070]@3000fps[/USER] (708 won't do that). So like the 708 the 308 is great especially set in a nice compact MOD Seven REM. For me an 8lbs 30-06 or 270 delivering pills 200 fps faster for manageable recoil is "better" in my book. [/QUOTE]
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