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<blockquote data-quote="Core781" data-source="post: 1629953" data-attributes="member: 106156"><p>If abc can kill xyz than what point are trying to make? If a 22 caliber projectile has enough energy to penetrate an animal and kill it, is that not enough to make it practical? You are saying you are allowing your biased opinion to get agitated when someone states a fact of the matter. Or you are saying 22 is not lethal enough, and a 30 or 40 or 50 is needed? Or maybe it's about the energy? Breaking it down tells us, as long as it penetrates enough it will kill if the shot is properly placed. There's no need to get upset about the fact that a 22LR could kill an adult deer. Many game animals were taken with small caliber rifles in the early days. From what I understand small calibar air rifles were used by some early American explorers to do the majority of game hunting. I believe Davey Crockett used a. 38 rifle, and was notoriously lethal in his harvest of game even though "real men" carried much larger caliber muskets on those days. No point in using a bigger hammer to do a job than necessary. When you shingle you don't want a framing hammer. I suppose if i was in grizzly country, I'd want a 45-50. Or high mountains I'd want a cartridge that could shoot 500 yards. Or some that shoots a mile in the mountains of Afghanistan.. You see my point. Guns are a tool, use one that works for you. Don't be delusional about the fact that if you don't place bullets into vitals no matter how powerful the cartridge is, it's not going to get the job done. And a miss is not going to help you, nor an extra X many pounds of rifle you have to lug around all day long. Or X more dollars in magnum cartridges spent, when a 30-30 can get the job done. We all have feelings from our experiences, but we have to remember not to confuse feelings with reality. Caliber bias is definitely one of those subjects, we have been fed marketing hype for so many years. A fun bit of trivia, go checkout the first 30-30 ads of you can find some and come back and share it with the rest of us. It was a "powerful" cartridge that could take "any American big game. " How many folks nowadays truly believe it cannot kill a bear or moose? I wonder how many large game animals were taken with 22-28 calibers?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Core781, post: 1629953, member: 106156"] If abc can kill xyz than what point are trying to make? If a 22 caliber projectile has enough energy to penetrate an animal and kill it, is that not enough to make it practical? You are saying you are allowing your biased opinion to get agitated when someone states a fact of the matter. Or you are saying 22 is not lethal enough, and a 30 or 40 or 50 is needed? Or maybe it's about the energy? Breaking it down tells us, as long as it penetrates enough it will kill if the shot is properly placed. There's no need to get upset about the fact that a 22LR could kill an adult deer. Many game animals were taken with small caliber rifles in the early days. From what I understand small calibar air rifles were used by some early American explorers to do the majority of game hunting. I believe Davey Crockett used a. 38 rifle, and was notoriously lethal in his harvest of game even though "real men" carried much larger caliber muskets on those days. No point in using a bigger hammer to do a job than necessary. When you shingle you don't want a framing hammer. I suppose if i was in grizzly country, I'd want a 45-50. Or high mountains I'd want a cartridge that could shoot 500 yards. Or some that shoots a mile in the mountains of Afghanistan.. You see my point. Guns are a tool, use one that works for you. Don't be delusional about the fact that if you don't place bullets into vitals no matter how powerful the cartridge is, it's not going to get the job done. And a miss is not going to help you, nor an extra X many pounds of rifle you have to lug around all day long. Or X more dollars in magnum cartridges spent, when a 30-30 can get the job done. We all have feelings from our experiences, but we have to remember not to confuse feelings with reality. Caliber bias is definitely one of those subjects, we have been fed marketing hype for so many years. A fun bit of trivia, go checkout the first 30-30 ads of you can find some and come back and share it with the rest of us. It was a "powerful" cartridge that could take "any American big game. " How many folks nowadays truly believe it cannot kill a bear or moose? I wonder how many large game animals were taken with 22-28 calibers? [/QUOTE]
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