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<blockquote data-quote="nicholasjohn" data-source="post: 1629661" data-attributes="member: 109113"><p>I'm glad that somebody finally chimed in about this one. The 30-06 can be handloaded to get about the same velocity with the next higher increment of bullet weight. ( i.e., 165's go about as fast in the '06 as 150's do in the 308, etc.) I have used both cartridges extensively for decades, on deer, elk, and antelope. The only difference between the two that I have seen was when used on elk - the 30-06 works a little better, but only when heavier bullets are used. With any of the traditional 30-caliber bullet weights, deer can't tell the difference - both cartridges are unnecessarily powerful for 150-pound animals. That said, I still think that using one's elk rifle for deer & antelope is a VERY good idea, since switching rifles three times each hunting season can be troublesome. </p><p></p><p>Elk seem to be the better animal for judging bullet and cartridge performance, since they are large enough for extra bullet weight to matter. Some guys like to use the lighter bullets for antelope to flatten trajectories, and that's fine & dandy. I prefer 180's for elk, which come out of a 30-06 noticeably faster than the 308 can shoot them. I've never tried 200's in either cartridge, and I think that the 300 magnums are probably where that bullet weight would shine, not the '06.</p><p></p><p>In any case, these are both top-notch cartridges for most of our big game hunting, and whichever one you happen to have is the one to use. If it's an '06, you will have a little better versatility. If it's the 308, you may want to consider using the monolithic bullets that penetrate somewhat better than convention jacketed bullets, so that your 165's behave more like a heavier bullet. Another thing to keep in mind is that the retained velocity ( and energy ) at the target is what makes the difference, and an elk at 350 yards that just got whacked with a 30-06 is going to behave much like one that just took the same bullet out of a 308 at 300 - which is to say that it's going to CROAK.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nicholasjohn, post: 1629661, member: 109113"] I'm glad that somebody finally chimed in about this one. The 30-06 can be handloaded to get about the same velocity with the next higher increment of bullet weight. ( i.e., 165's go about as fast in the '06 as 150's do in the 308, etc.) I have used both cartridges extensively for decades, on deer, elk, and antelope. The only difference between the two that I have seen was when used on elk - the 30-06 works a little better, but only when heavier bullets are used. With any of the traditional 30-caliber bullet weights, deer can't tell the difference - both cartridges are unnecessarily powerful for 150-pound animals. That said, I still think that using one's elk rifle for deer & antelope is a VERY good idea, since switching rifles three times each hunting season can be troublesome. Elk seem to be the better animal for judging bullet and cartridge performance, since they are large enough for extra bullet weight to matter. Some guys like to use the lighter bullets for antelope to flatten trajectories, and that's fine & dandy. I prefer 180's for elk, which come out of a 30-06 noticeably faster than the 308 can shoot them. I've never tried 200's in either cartridge, and I think that the 300 magnums are probably where that bullet weight would shine, not the '06. In any case, these are both top-notch cartridges for most of our big game hunting, and whichever one you happen to have is the one to use. If it's an '06, you will have a little better versatility. If it's the 308, you may want to consider using the monolithic bullets that penetrate somewhat better than convention jacketed bullets, so that your 165's behave more like a heavier bullet. Another thing to keep in mind is that the retained velocity ( and energy ) at the target is what makes the difference, and an elk at 350 yards that just got whacked with a 30-06 is going to behave much like one that just took the same bullet out of a 308 at 300 - which is to say that it's going to CROAK. [/QUOTE]
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