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Not so happy with the Accubonds
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<blockquote data-quote="coleridge" data-source="post: 233600" data-attributes="member: 6425"><p>Different people have different definitions. As two people can witness the same incident (not just talking about hunting here) & each have different perceptions as to what happened. That's just the way it is.</p><p></p><p>Define bullet failure. Bullets are made to fly through the air & hit the intended target. Competition bullets have finished here but "game" bullets are designed to continue & "make something die". If the deer was shot & found (killed) did the bullet fail? Some may make a perfect shot on a deer; it hit the ground like hamburger but find the core & jacket separated. Some yell bullet failure. Some others buy more of those bullets!</p><p></p><p>As everyone in the thread has coincided, many things can happen in "field" conditions. Also agreed, anything can "fluke" once in a while. That is why I don't understand why people believe in absolutes. One has stated (several times) that there are no absolutes but ABSOLUTLY believes what he believes? (I wonder how minds & toes keep from colliding sometimes...) If anyone has ever shot & lost an animal, are you absolutely sure you didn't fluke the shot, hit a twig, blade of grass, a large insect in the air that that deformed or deflected the bullet path? Maybe the shoulder "raked" the bullet? If this did happen, does this mean the bullet failed? If the core & jacket are together in perfect mushroom would it still be failure.</p><p></p><p>(Unless Darwin was wrong about how long it takes to evolve) I see no reason how any living creature could live very long (doesn't have to be immediate) with a hole in both lungs. Mammals breath air, if they don't... they die. They utilize lungs to get oxygen to the brain, if they don't they die (brain damage). Let's review: If there are no longer any lungs… what happens??? It's that simple. I just don't see whitetails evolving gills that fast...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Back on track with the post: I have killed about 20 deer with the AB's, they have preformed well. Although I have had 2 (both 140gr .284") not exit ~110 lb whitetails. However, both dropped on the spot (I'm seeing a pattern in this thread), but neither got up & ran afterward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="coleridge, post: 233600, member: 6425"] Different people have different definitions. As two people can witness the same incident (not just talking about hunting here) & each have different perceptions as to what happened. That’s just the way it is. Define bullet failure. Bullets are made to fly through the air & hit the intended target. Competition bullets have finished here but "game" bullets are designed to continue & “make something die". If the deer was shot & found (killed) did the bullet fail? Some may make a perfect shot on a deer; it hit the ground like hamburger but find the core & jacket separated. Some yell bullet failure. Some others buy more of those bullets! As everyone in the thread has coincided, many things can happen in "field" conditions. Also agreed, anything can “fluke” once in a while. That is why I don't understand why people believe in absolutes. One has stated (several times) that there are no absolutes but ABSOLUTLY believes what he believes? (I wonder how minds & toes keep from colliding sometimes...) If anyone has ever shot & lost an animal, are you absolutely sure you didn't fluke the shot, hit a twig, blade of grass, a large insect in the air that that deformed or deflected the bullet path? Maybe the shoulder “raked” the bullet? If this did happen, does this mean the bullet failed? If the core & jacket are together in perfect mushroom would it still be failure. (Unless Darwin was wrong about how long it takes to evolve) I see no reason how any living creature could live very long (doesn’t have to be immediate) with a hole in both lungs. Mammals breath air, if they don't... they die. They utilize lungs to get oxygen to the brain, if they don’t they die (brain damage). Let’s review: If there are no longer any lungs… what happens??? It’s that simple. I just don't see whitetails evolving gills that fast... Back on track with the post: I have killed about 20 deer with the AB's, they have preformed well. Although I have had 2 (both 140gr .284") not exit ~110 lb whitetails. However, both dropped on the spot (I'm seeing a pattern in this thread), but neither got up & ran afterward. [/QUOTE]
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