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<blockquote data-quote="HARPERC" data-source="post: 1468299" data-attributes="member: 30671"><p>The use of purpose set fires by native peoples is well documented. Absent humans, drought and fire have been a reality in the west for thousands of years. John Muir got all his preservationist wishes, and the Yosemite area is closed again this year, folks have been evacuated multiple times in 2 years.</p><p></p><p>Fire depends on O2, heat, and fuel, the only thing that's changed is the amount of fuel on the ground. I can take you to spots here where the pine needles are knee deep. It's head high sage brush in some places. In 2006 we drove through BC with hundreds of miles of beetle killed timber. I mean zero green trees, tightly grouped. A couple of years later in a rather tongue in cheek assessment a BC official pronounced the Pine Beetle epidemic over as they had ate it all. California imported Eucalyptus a hundred years ago, and it brought it's own unique issues. </p><p></p><p>Our local DNR turned away over 300 trained certified volunteers, many with their own heavy equipment. This while houses burned, and hospitals filled with those choking on smoke.</p><p></p><p>The issue isn't a couple of kids with firecrackers. It's how much money we allow foreign interest to use groups of fringe nuts, and corrupt bureaucrats to rule over our energy interests. It's the failure of the average citizen to realize this is the goal, and it's not ignorance it's malice.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/IdahovsUSFS/photos/rpp.488586294645257/725979280905956/?type=3&theater" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/IdahovsUSFS/photos/rpp.488586294645257/725979280905956/?type=3&theater</a></p><p></p><p>Whether it's wolves, timber, mining, grazing, or farming comments like this from the swamp have been common, and reveal an agenda.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HARPERC, post: 1468299, member: 30671"] The use of purpose set fires by native peoples is well documented. Absent humans, drought and fire have been a reality in the west for thousands of years. John Muir got all his preservationist wishes, and the Yosemite area is closed again this year, folks have been evacuated multiple times in 2 years. Fire depends on O2, heat, and fuel, the only thing that's changed is the amount of fuel on the ground. I can take you to spots here where the pine needles are knee deep. It's head high sage brush in some places. In 2006 we drove through BC with hundreds of miles of beetle killed timber. I mean zero green trees, tightly grouped. A couple of years later in a rather tongue in cheek assessment a BC official pronounced the Pine Beetle epidemic over as they had ate it all. California imported Eucalyptus a hundred years ago, and it brought it's own unique issues. Our local DNR turned away over 300 trained certified volunteers, many with their own heavy equipment. This while houses burned, and hospitals filled with those choking on smoke. The issue isn't a couple of kids with firecrackers. It's how much money we allow foreign interest to use groups of fringe nuts, and corrupt bureaucrats to rule over our energy interests. It's the failure of the average citizen to realize this is the goal, and it's not ignorance it's malice. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/IdahovsUSFS/photos/rpp.488586294645257/725979280905956/?type=3&theater[/URL] Whether it's wolves, timber, mining, grazing, or farming comments like this from the swamp have been common, and reveal an agenda. [/QUOTE]
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