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Reloading
Noob reloading process question
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<blockquote data-quote="Munch" data-source="post: 2767076" data-attributes="member: 36823"><p>I think that is about spot on...I think too many shooters today have unreasonable expectations given the price-point for currently mass produced rifles. Seems like today, everyone wants a rifle capable of hitting a cantelope sized object at extreme distances (>1000m). There are plenty of tools out there that can achieve such, but, most of it comes down to the skills of the shooter.</p><p></p><p>As a general observation, I think the big name, big volume factory guns (Win & Rem) the last 25 years are far less accurate today then ones produced in the pre-90s. Yes, one would think modern CAD/CAM machining would make it more accurate.</p><p></p><p>Yet, I have found the amount of free bore to be quite a bit excessive today compared to chamber design in the big 2 factory guns pre-90s. This is a very broad characterization based on evaluating over 200 rifles that came across my bench 5-30 years ago. Not a valid statistical sample, thus, just my personal observation; nothing more. I do not think you will find a factory, mass produced rifle stating/advertising "meets SAAMI specifications".</p><p></p><p>Some well known custom rifle builders/gunsmiths tend to believe the excessive amount of free bore seen today is a result of inexperienced folks getting into reloading, and loading ammunition which exceeds rifle/barrel design parameters. And given today's political/legal gun climate, any reason, no matter how incredulous, potentially opens the manufacturer to a lawsuit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Munch, post: 2767076, member: 36823"] I think that is about spot on...I think too many shooters today have unreasonable expectations given the price-point for currently mass produced rifles. Seems like today, everyone wants a rifle capable of hitting a cantelope sized object at extreme distances (>1000m). There are plenty of tools out there that can achieve such, but, most of it comes down to the skills of the shooter. As a general observation, I think the big name, big volume factory guns (Win & Rem) the last 25 years are far less accurate today then ones produced in the pre-90s. Yes, one would think modern CAD/CAM machining would make it more accurate. Yet, I have found the amount of free bore to be quite a bit excessive today compared to chamber design in the big 2 factory guns pre-90s. This is a very broad characterization based on evaluating over 200 rifles that came across my bench 5-30 years ago. Not a valid statistical sample, thus, just my personal observation; nothing more. I do not think you will find a factory, mass produced rifle stating/advertising "meets SAAMI specifications". Some well known custom rifle builders/gunsmiths tend to believe the excessive amount of free bore seen today is a result of inexperienced folks getting into reloading, and loading ammunition which exceeds rifle/barrel design parameters. And given today's political/legal gun climate, any reason, no matter how incredulous, potentially opens the manufacturer to a lawsuit. [/QUOTE]
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