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Nightforce or Mark 4? PLEASE help me decide!
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<blockquote data-quote="SouthTXBowhunter" data-source="post: 262004" data-attributes="member: 13266"><p>Hey guys!</p><p> </p><p>I <em>THOUGHT</em> I had made my decision and was settled on a <a href="http://www.nightforceoptics.com/SCOPES_OVERVIEW/3_5-15x50___3_5-15x56_/3_5-15x50___3_5-15x56_.html" target="_blank"><strong>Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50 with NP-R2 reticle and Zero-Stop</strong>.</a> But today I ran into a Leupold rep while I was shopping at Cabelas and he got me thinking about the Mark 4s again- <em>specifically</em>, the <strong><a href="http://www.leupold.com/tactical/products/scopes/mark-4-lrt-riflescopes/mark-4-4-5-14x50mm-lrt-m1-illum-reticle/" target="_blank">Mark 4 4.5-14x50 M1 with illuminated TMR reticle!</a></strong></p><p> </p><p>I love the Nightforce scope (expecially the Zero-Stop feature) but the Leupold is about $450 cheaper- I found it on "www.rifle-scope-store.com for <em>under </em>$1200. That's a <em>whole</em> lot of 'scratch' to save and I could put the money into some reloading gear. I'm just not <em>sure</em> if the Zero-Stop feature and the improved glass is truly worth the money. <strong>Do y'all think that there's a significant, noticeable and practical difference between the two scopes- in terms of extreme low-light capability, ability to have the illuminated reticle <em>barely</em> lit, target clarity out to 800 yards and in terms of one reticle being better than the other for LR shooting? What <em>percentage</em> of improvement do you think the Nightforce would have over the Leupold Mark 4- 10%? 20%? 30%?</strong></p><p> </p><p>I don't mind spending the extra money for the Nightforce <em><strong>IF </strong>I'm going to see a marked improvement in low-light capability and if the Nightforce will make it easier to be accurate out to around 800 yards; <strong>BUT, </strong>I don't want to spend the extra money just because Nightforce is 'the latest-greatest' winner of the popularity contest. That's a BIG price difference!</em></p><p> </p><p>One of the things I REALLY like about the Mark 4 is its compact size and light weight! It's a full 2 inches shorter than the Nightforce and a HALF-POUND lighter! Whether it's a mountain elk hunt or a south Texas hog hunt in brush country- riding a long gun or a SPR AR15- shorter and lighter is awfully nice. </p><p> </p><p>I will be using the scope I buy for BOTH LR hunting <em>and</em> traditional distance hunting; but it's unlikely that I will be doing any extreme long range shooting in the forseeable future. None of my hunting opportunities offer me shot opportunities over 800 yards and most of them are 600 or less. I will, however, be using the scope extensively for extreme low-light shooting- including hog hunting by moonlight, without the use of any spotlights. So, light transmission is a big issue for me in picking a scope. <strong>Since I just can't afford 2 scopes right now, and it's going to be a WHILE before buying a second scope is an option, I'm looking to y'all for some practical advice on which scope to buy. </strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>I'd sure like to hear y'all's suggestions on which scope would be the better option, for the money, for me and my purposes!</strong></p><p> </p><p>Thanks so much!</p><p> </p><p>Nick</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SouthTXBowhunter, post: 262004, member: 13266"] Hey guys! I [I]THOUGHT[/I] I had made my decision and was settled on a [URL="http://www.nightforceoptics.com/SCOPES_OVERVIEW/3_5-15x50___3_5-15x56_/3_5-15x50___3_5-15x56_.html"][B]Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50 with NP-R2 reticle and Zero-Stop[/B].[/URL] But today I ran into a Leupold rep while I was shopping at Cabelas and he got me thinking about the Mark 4s again- [I]specifically[/I], the [B][URL="http://www.leupold.com/tactical/products/scopes/mark-4-lrt-riflescopes/mark-4-4-5-14x50mm-lrt-m1-illum-reticle/"]Mark 4 4.5-14x50 M1 with illuminated TMR reticle![/URL][/B] I love the Nightforce scope (expecially the Zero-Stop feature) but the Leupold is about $450 cheaper- I found it on "www.rifle-scope-store.com for [I]under [/I]$1200. That's a [I]whole[/I] lot of 'scratch' to save and I could put the money into some reloading gear. I'm just not [I]sure[/I] if the Zero-Stop feature and the improved glass is truly worth the money. [B]Do y'all think that there's a significant, noticeable and practical difference between the two scopes- in terms of extreme low-light capability, ability to have the illuminated reticle [I]barely[/I] lit, target clarity out to 800 yards and in terms of one reticle being better than the other for LR shooting? What [I]percentage[/I] of improvement do you think the Nightforce would have over the Leupold Mark 4- 10%? 20%? 30%?[/B] I don't mind spending the extra money for the Nightforce [I][B]IF [/B]I'm going to see a marked improvement in low-light capability and if the Nightforce will make it easier to be accurate out to around 800 yards; [B]BUT, [/B]I don't want to spend the extra money just because Nightforce is 'the latest-greatest' winner of the popularity contest. That's a BIG price difference![/I] One of the things I REALLY like about the Mark 4 is its compact size and light weight! It's a full 2 inches shorter than the Nightforce and a HALF-POUND lighter! Whether it's a mountain elk hunt or a south Texas hog hunt in brush country- riding a long gun or a SPR AR15- shorter and lighter is awfully nice. I will be using the scope I buy for BOTH LR hunting [I]and[/I] traditional distance hunting; but it's unlikely that I will be doing any extreme long range shooting in the forseeable future. None of my hunting opportunities offer me shot opportunities over 800 yards and most of them are 600 or less. I will, however, be using the scope extensively for extreme low-light shooting- including hog hunting by moonlight, without the use of any spotlights. So, light transmission is a big issue for me in picking a scope. [B]Since I just can't afford 2 scopes right now, and it's going to be a WHILE before buying a second scope is an option, I'm looking to y'all for some practical advice on which scope to buy. [/B] [B]I'd sure like to hear y'all's suggestions on which scope would be the better option, for the money, for me and my purposes![/B] Thanks so much! Nick [/QUOTE]
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