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New to long range! .308 winchester any good?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ian M" data-source="post: 170891" data-attributes="member: 25"><p>I believe the .308 is an effective killer of deer sized critters out to 650 yards, delivering shock and lots of penetration. Out to 700-750 it will still kill but I have seen more deer walk around or dash until their lungs fill with blood. I have never shot a deer past 750 with a .308 but one of my friends did a one-shot kill on a mule doe last year at 830, she was on three legs and needed to be put down. One 168 AMAX did her in nicely, this was after a couple of sighters on a rock that she happened to walked to.</p><p></p><p>A wise gunsmith friend of mine has a very astute opinion regarding the .308. He says:</p><p></p><p>"Friends don't let friends shoot .308's at one thousand yards..." </p><p></p><p>He means there are such superior cartridges available, why shoot the .308? I particularly agree when you are talking about shooting critters at 1000 yards, the impact energy is not going to overwhelm the critter unless you take out the nervous system. I believe that would be a fluke-shot with any hunting weight .308 rifle on the planet. </p><p></p><p>While I enjoy my .308's a lot, they do have limitations. I would say the next logical progression is one of the .300 mags, then a .338 Lapua, then one of Kirby's boomers, then a .416 Barrett or .408 cheytac, then a .50, then... I have experienced the .300 mags and the .416 Barrett on game, need to fill in the gaps with the Lapua and the other big players tho.</p><p></p><p>Brown dog, sure enjoyed and share your outlook on this topic and Jerry T's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ian M, post: 170891, member: 25"] I believe the .308 is an effective killer of deer sized critters out to 650 yards, delivering shock and lots of penetration. Out to 700-750 it will still kill but I have seen more deer walk around or dash until their lungs fill with blood. I have never shot a deer past 750 with a .308 but one of my friends did a one-shot kill on a mule doe last year at 830, she was on three legs and needed to be put down. One 168 AMAX did her in nicely, this was after a couple of sighters on a rock that she happened to walked to. A wise gunsmith friend of mine has a very astute opinion regarding the .308. He says: "Friends don't let friends shoot .308's at one thousand yards..." He means there are such superior cartridges available, why shoot the .308? I particularly agree when you are talking about shooting critters at 1000 yards, the impact energy is not going to overwhelm the critter unless you take out the nervous system. I believe that would be a fluke-shot with any hunting weight .308 rifle on the planet. While I enjoy my .308's a lot, they do have limitations. I would say the next logical progression is one of the .300 mags, then a .338 Lapua, then one of Kirby's boomers, then a .416 Barrett or .408 cheytac, then a .50, then... I have experienced the .300 mags and the .416 Barrett on game, need to fill in the gaps with the Lapua and the other big players tho. Brown dog, sure enjoyed and share your outlook on this topic and Jerry T's. [/QUOTE]
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