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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 476096" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>Wow Topshot! You caused me a lot of research! Anyway... I know it sounds crazy to sell a .5 MOA rifle, but my 25-06 is about shot out, so it needs replaced or rebuilt anyway. It's badly firecracked by the previous owner but it still shot well for me for a while and I did get a nice speed goat buck with a pin point accurate 280 yd shot. The last couple of groups I shot from it opened up a little. I will probably keep it around until I get a replacement and maybe snuff a few prairie dogs in with it the mean time. </p><p> </p><p>The 300 Ultra has a couple hundred rounds or so through it and I'll probably put another couple hundred through it before I sell it. It will be my spring bear rifle and I'll hold on to it until I have a replacement which I'm planning on being a 300-375 Ruger. So wasn't planning on building a RUM on a Howa action because it it's a bit too small. In fact, IMO the Rem action is also too small for the RUM for the bullets I am planning on using - which are .010 longer than the 210 Bergers. </p><p> </p><p>That being said, I have two Rems and one Howa (S&W M1500) and I like the Howa much better, not to say the Rem isn't a good action - it is. How's that for politics <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Seriously though, the Rem is a good action, but I think the Howa is better and I'm not the only one with that opinion. Some folks will tell you that Rem 700's are junk. I think some have had their issues but overall it has been a good work horse.</p><p> </p><p>This is the first I've heard of Howa's being cast. I don't doubt you, I just never heard it before and after some googling, I only found one second hand reference to it. Never-the-less, Weatherby offers the Vanguards in 300 WM, 338 WM and 300 Wby Mag. The latter has about 5 gr more case capacity than the 375 Ruger and I found a couple of references to 375 Rugers built on Howa actions. So I think I'm safe with that. I also found this well know smith whio likes using Howa's for Lapua builds....</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.roedaleprecision.com/epages/semicustom.htm" target="_blank">Roedale Precision - Semi-Custom</a></p><p> </p><p>Some smiths wont build a Lapua on a Rem 700, but everyone has different standards.</p><p> </p><p>As for catastrophic failure, again, first I've heard of it and if you could provide details and reference I would be no kidding interested.</p><p> </p><p>Why I like the Howa over the Rem 700...</p><p> </p><p>- One piece gas ported bolt</p><p>- Better bolt fit and smoother action (with my rifles)</p><p>- Better designed bolt release</p><p>- M16 style extractor</p><p>- Side by side comparison, heavier more robust reciever</p><p>- Integrated recoil lug</p><p>- Much more simple and easier trigger tuning (in my experience)</p><p>-- I spent over an hour tuning each of my 700 triggers</p><p>-- 2 min to tune my Howa</p><p> </p><p>So that's my story and I'm sticking to it... and if I leave this world breaking the trigger of my Howa... well... there are worse ways to go... and I'll bequeath my NXS to you which I have no doubt will escape with only minor scratches <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 476096, member: 11717"] Wow Topshot! You caused me a lot of research! Anyway... I know it sounds crazy to sell a .5 MOA rifle, but my 25-06 is about shot out, so it needs replaced or rebuilt anyway. It's badly firecracked by the previous owner but it still shot well for me for a while and I did get a nice speed goat buck with a pin point accurate 280 yd shot. The last couple of groups I shot from it opened up a little. I will probably keep it around until I get a replacement and maybe snuff a few prairie dogs in with it the mean time. The 300 Ultra has a couple hundred rounds or so through it and I'll probably put another couple hundred through it before I sell it. It will be my spring bear rifle and I'll hold on to it until I have a replacement which I'm planning on being a 300-375 Ruger. So wasn't planning on building a RUM on a Howa action because it it's a bit too small. In fact, IMO the Rem action is also too small for the RUM for the bullets I am planning on using - which are .010 longer than the 210 Bergers. That being said, I have two Rems and one Howa (S&W M1500) and I like the Howa much better, not to say the Rem isn't a good action - it is. How's that for politics :) Seriously though, the Rem is a good action, but I think the Howa is better and I'm not the only one with that opinion. Some folks will tell you that Rem 700's are junk. I think some have had their issues but overall it has been a good work horse. This is the first I've heard of Howa's being cast. I don't doubt you, I just never heard it before and after some googling, I only found one second hand reference to it. Never-the-less, Weatherby offers the Vanguards in 300 WM, 338 WM and 300 Wby Mag. The latter has about 5 gr more case capacity than the 375 Ruger and I found a couple of references to 375 Rugers built on Howa actions. So I think I'm safe with that. I also found this well know smith whio likes using Howa's for Lapua builds.... [URL="http://www.roedaleprecision.com/epages/semicustom.htm"]Roedale Precision - Semi-Custom[/URL] Some smiths wont build a Lapua on a Rem 700, but everyone has different standards. As for catastrophic failure, again, first I've heard of it and if you could provide details and reference I would be no kidding interested. Why I like the Howa over the Rem 700... - One piece gas ported bolt - Better bolt fit and smoother action (with my rifles) - Better designed bolt release - M16 style extractor - Side by side comparison, heavier more robust reciever - Integrated recoil lug - Much more simple and easier trigger tuning (in my experience) -- I spent over an hour tuning each of my 700 triggers -- 2 min to tune my Howa So that's my story and I'm sticking to it... and if I leave this world breaking the trigger of my Howa... well... there are worse ways to go... and I'll bequeath my NXS to you which I have no doubt will escape with only minor scratches :) [/QUOTE]
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