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<blockquote data-quote="sable tireur" data-source="post: 1069284" data-attributes="member: 27307"><p>Online diagnostics can be extremely frustrating simply from the standpoint that we can't see the rifle or actually handle it. So our options are limited to resorting to the endless lists of 'what-ifs' or taking a stab at WAGs.</p><p></p><p>The first thing I would ask is to either define 'all over the paper' or put up a picture of the target with a scale for reference. Reason: I have a bench rifle which will routinely shoot in the 3's without much of a problem. However, occasionally my groups open up to be in the 4's, which to me with that rifle is 'all over the paper'. It's all in the context.</p><p></p><p>Second, I would let your buddy shoot some of the 180's while you try some of his ammunition in your rifle. This should tell you quite a bit immediately. We know that the twist rate is fine but rifles can be finicky things where sometimes particular load combinations will not perform up to our expectations.</p><p></p><p>Third, are you capable of steering this rifle as set up, to acceptable groups? I don't ask this to be mean. I ask you to examine your ability in conjunction with this rifle to see if you might be a little awkward or uncomfortable with the design. Was your hold relaxed and steady?</p><p></p><p>I suggest starting with the list above just to be sure that everything is tight and has been checked to eliminate it from potential problems.</p><p></p><p>That should get you going.</p><p>Regards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sable tireur, post: 1069284, member: 27307"] Online diagnostics can be extremely frustrating simply from the standpoint that we can't see the rifle or actually handle it. So our options are limited to resorting to the endless lists of 'what-ifs' or taking a stab at WAGs. The first thing I would ask is to either define 'all over the paper' or put up a picture of the target with a scale for reference. Reason: I have a bench rifle which will routinely shoot in the 3's without much of a problem. However, occasionally my groups open up to be in the 4's, which to me with that rifle is 'all over the paper'. It's all in the context. Second, I would let your buddy shoot some of the 180's while you try some of his ammunition in your rifle. This should tell you quite a bit immediately. We know that the twist rate is fine but rifles can be finicky things where sometimes particular load combinations will not perform up to our expectations. Third, are you capable of steering this rifle as set up, to acceptable groups? I don't ask this to be mean. I ask you to examine your ability in conjunction with this rifle to see if you might be a little awkward or uncomfortable with the design. Was your hold relaxed and steady? I suggest starting with the list above just to be sure that everything is tight and has been checked to eliminate it from potential problems. That should get you going. Regards. [/QUOTE]
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