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New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??
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<blockquote data-quote="backwoods83" data-source="post: 749915" data-attributes="member: 29890"><p>I'm primarily a Savage fan, however I own a few Vanguards, they give up nothing to the remingtons, the actions are smooter, the extractor is a better design, the bolt is ported which is a plus to vent gases if a primer rupture occurs, the barrel tenion is the same size so no difference in strength, and to top that they offer a accuracy garuantee, remington does not, remington actions are good cheap donors if you want a custom because of available parts but that's about it. As for the 24" barrel on the 300wby Vanguard, I have one, I run 208 amaxs at 2995fps with H1000, granted I have lapped the lugs, put a B&C medalist stock on it and a timney trigger, and a brake which makes it feel like a 308, but it is a 1/2 moa rifle and if it had the 2 more inches of barrel it would be at no disadvantage to the 300RUM, and use a lot less powder. Btw RUM brass cost almost as much as norma for the wby and none of the RUM brass is all that great. You do not need any kind of necked down 404jeffery or a lapua for 600yrds on anything on this continent. Run the numbers for energy with the load I use 208x2995x2995/450400, that's your muzzle energy, plug that into a ballistics calculator with a .648 g1 bc and see what you got left at 600yrds, its enough to look like the animal was smacked by a full size truck running 70mph.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="backwoods83, post: 749915, member: 29890"] I'm primarily a Savage fan, however I own a few Vanguards, they give up nothing to the remingtons, the actions are smooter, the extractor is a better design, the bolt is ported which is a plus to vent gases if a primer rupture occurs, the barrel tenion is the same size so no difference in strength, and to top that they offer a accuracy garuantee, remington does not, remington actions are good cheap donors if you want a custom because of available parts but that's about it. As for the 24" barrel on the 300wby Vanguard, I have one, I run 208 amaxs at 2995fps with H1000, granted I have lapped the lugs, put a B&C medalist stock on it and a timney trigger, and a brake which makes it feel like a 308, but it is a 1/2 moa rifle and if it had the 2 more inches of barrel it would be at no disadvantage to the 300RUM, and use a lot less powder. Btw RUM brass cost almost as much as norma for the wby and none of the RUM brass is all that great. You do not need any kind of necked down 404jeffery or a lapua for 600yrds on anything on this continent. Run the numbers for energy with the load I use 208x2995x2995/450400, that's your muzzle energy, plug that into a ballistics calculator with a .648 g1 bc and see what you got left at 600yrds, its enough to look like the animal was smacked by a full size truck running 70mph. [/QUOTE]
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