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New Rifle build Please tell me why I should or should not build a 25-06
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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaJack" data-source="post: 2275322" data-attributes="member: 25389"><p>After owning, shooting, hunting, and taking game with everything from 22 caliber to 30 caliber ahead of various rounds, my all time favorite is the 25-06. I harvested dozens of deer and antelope and that round most consistently put the game down humanely with the least amount of ruined meat. I could make my brass by necking down 30-06 brass, shoot sub-minute accuracy, and make one shot kills consistently. Back in my heyday we didn't have modern optics technology and bullet technology to make ethical shots beyond 400 yards. But the 25-06 performed flawlessly for me. Now I own several and they all send 115 gr Berger VLD's downrange with sub-minute accuracy out as far as I can find somewhere to shoot. I do own an awesome 257 Weatherby Magnum that shoots the Berger 115 VLD's light out too. Thing is, that extra velocity is a notorious blood shot maker. There is so much energy that if the bullet hits flesh, there is going to be lots of scrap meat. I've probably hurt on the 257 WB crowd. Sorry, just my experience after hunting around Montana for the last 60 years. Since you already have a 6.5 Creedmoor, maybe build one for a family member?? With a short action, I'd build a 6.5 Creedmoor. Ooops, there's lots of 6.5 CM haters out there. That said, the 6.5 CM is a remarkable round. I'm shooting 0.27" groups with Berger 135 gr Classic Hunters out of a $600 Howa rifle, and out of a short barrel AR frame, a Browning T-Bolt Micro, and a Browning Hells Canyon. My advice, forget 22 caliber for a deer rifle. Years ago, I hunted deer and antelope with a 22-250. As long as they were within 125 yards, they'd drop. In one instance a friend was shooting 220 Swift. At the time that was the hot 22 caliber. Back in the 5 anterless, muley tag days we rarely left a tag un-filled, hunting in eastern Montana. One trip, he was shooting the Swift and I was shooting a Browning B78, 25-06 at a herd about 200 yards across a gully. I dropped 3 deer, all with one shot. My friend was still shooting at the same deer that took repeated hits with the Swift. He tagged one, shot full of holes in the front end. I tagged 3 that either dropped in their tracks or within a few feet of taking the shot. Neither of us ever hunted big game with a 22 caliber after that day.</p><p></p><p>Another friend set aside his 6.5-284 and 6.5 Creedmoor after building a 6mm Creedmoor. Maybe the right choice?? Or, 22 caliber is fine for shooting coyotes. </p><p></p><p>I'm buying and/or building 6.5 Creedmoors for all the ladies and grandkids. From my experience, the 6.5 CM and 25-06 are the most effective, efficient deer and antelope rounds going. Now, I won't start a discussion about elk guns other than to say, neither of those rounds are the best option for bigger game.</p><p></p><p>Good thing about our sport. We can all do it our way!! Good luck whatever you do!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaJack, post: 2275322, member: 25389"] After owning, shooting, hunting, and taking game with everything from 22 caliber to 30 caliber ahead of various rounds, my all time favorite is the 25-06. I harvested dozens of deer and antelope and that round most consistently put the game down humanely with the least amount of ruined meat. I could make my brass by necking down 30-06 brass, shoot sub-minute accuracy, and make one shot kills consistently. Back in my heyday we didn't have modern optics technology and bullet technology to make ethical shots beyond 400 yards. But the 25-06 performed flawlessly for me. Now I own several and they all send 115 gr Berger VLD's downrange with sub-minute accuracy out as far as I can find somewhere to shoot. I do own an awesome 257 Weatherby Magnum that shoots the Berger 115 VLD's light out too. Thing is, that extra velocity is a notorious blood shot maker. There is so much energy that if the bullet hits flesh, there is going to be lots of scrap meat. I've probably hurt on the 257 WB crowd. Sorry, just my experience after hunting around Montana for the last 60 years. Since you already have a 6.5 Creedmoor, maybe build one for a family member?? With a short action, I'd build a 6.5 Creedmoor. Ooops, there's lots of 6.5 CM haters out there. That said, the 6.5 CM is a remarkable round. I'm shooting 0.27" groups with Berger 135 gr Classic Hunters out of a $600 Howa rifle, and out of a short barrel AR frame, a Browning T-Bolt Micro, and a Browning Hells Canyon. My advice, forget 22 caliber for a deer rifle. Years ago, I hunted deer and antelope with a 22-250. As long as they were within 125 yards, they'd drop. In one instance a friend was shooting 220 Swift. At the time that was the hot 22 caliber. Back in the 5 anterless, muley tag days we rarely left a tag un-filled, hunting in eastern Montana. One trip, he was shooting the Swift and I was shooting a Browning B78, 25-06 at a herd about 200 yards across a gully. I dropped 3 deer, all with one shot. My friend was still shooting at the same deer that took repeated hits with the Swift. He tagged one, shot full of holes in the front end. I tagged 3 that either dropped in their tracks or within a few feet of taking the shot. Neither of us ever hunted big game with a 22 caliber after that day. Another friend set aside his 6.5-284 and 6.5 Creedmoor after building a 6mm Creedmoor. Maybe the right choice?? Or, 22 caliber is fine for shooting coyotes. I'm buying and/or building 6.5 Creedmoors for all the ladies and grandkids. From my experience, the 6.5 CM and 25-06 are the most effective, efficient deer and antelope rounds going. Now, I won't start a discussion about elk guns other than to say, neither of those rounds are the best option for bigger game. Good thing about our sport. We can all do it our way!! Good luck whatever you do!! [/QUOTE]
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