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<blockquote data-quote="RogerPA" data-source="post: 1603030" data-attributes="member: 70741"><p>I've read the entire thread and agree with most of the advice you've been given. For sure read as many manuals as you can! And comparing load data from one manual to another is a great way to see how various bullet manufacturers tend to use the same powders in their load development for a given cartridge/bullet weight & construction style. You asked about using data from one manufacturer's manual for a particular cartridge and bullet weight, while using the same bullet weight from a different manufacturer. Assuming the bullet designs are similar (lead cup & core vs. lead cup & core, for example), the data should be "close". I'd hesitate to call it interchangeable, as even with soft lead core bullets, the thickness of copper jackets do vary from one manufacturer to another, (and even from different design styles within the same manufacturer's product line) that could be enough to create unexpected pressure issues. Someone suggested staying away from "all copper" bullets as you learn the ropes. This is probably good advice, but for certain, when and if you do elect to use this style bullet, I would advise you use that company's loading manual for your load development. There are enough manufacturing and design variations with this style bullet to warrant this warning! Also, I didn't notice anyone mentioning the dangers of going with too light of a load.(?) But as odd as it may seem, a load that's too far below the published "minimum load" can also create dangerous situations. (Imagine a case half full of powder, and all of it clumped into one spot inside the case.). To burn effectively the powder needs to lay evenly throughout the case. When it's culmped into one area, unusual pressure spikes are generated, and in some instances can be as dangerous as a seriously over-charged case. I do hope you're able to find a veteran reloaded to sit beside you as you learn and develop your first handloads! 55 years ago, as a ten year old, I had the great opportunity to sit beside my brother, 15 years my senior, and learn how it was done. Of course we (I) made some mistakes, and I still work under the mindset of: "When you stop learning, you stop living." Trust me, you will get a case stuck in a die, and you will load some rounds you'll need to pull apart. But that's why they have stuck-case removal kits and bullet pullers! Just learn from it and love your new hobby. Then, one of these days, you'll be standing over a big buck, or bear, or elk, and feel something deep inside you that's the thrill of knowing you just took that trophy with something YOU made! Trust me again when I tell you there's nothing like it! Good luck and welcome to a unique club!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RogerPA, post: 1603030, member: 70741"] I've read the entire thread and agree with most of the advice you've been given. For sure read as many manuals as you can! And comparing load data from one manual to another is a great way to see how various bullet manufacturers tend to use the same powders in their load development for a given cartridge/bullet weight & construction style. You asked about using data from one manufacturer's manual for a particular cartridge and bullet weight, while using the same bullet weight from a different manufacturer. Assuming the bullet designs are similar (lead cup & core vs. lead cup & core, for example), the data should be "close". I'd hesitate to call it interchangeable, as even with soft lead core bullets, the thickness of copper jackets do vary from one manufacturer to another, (and even from different design styles within the same manufacturer's product line) that could be enough to create unexpected pressure issues. Someone suggested staying away from "all copper" bullets as you learn the ropes. This is probably good advice, but for certain, when and if you do elect to use this style bullet, I would advise you use that company's loading manual for your load development. There are enough manufacturing and design variations with this style bullet to warrant this warning! Also, I didn't notice anyone mentioning the dangers of going with too light of a load.(?) But as odd as it may seem, a load that's too far below the published "minimum load" can also create dangerous situations. (Imagine a case half full of powder, and all of it clumped into one spot inside the case.). To burn effectively the powder needs to lay evenly throughout the case. When it's culmped into one area, unusual pressure spikes are generated, and in some instances can be as dangerous as a seriously over-charged case. I do hope you're able to find a veteran reloaded to sit beside you as you learn and develop your first handloads! 55 years ago, as a ten year old, I had the great opportunity to sit beside my brother, 15 years my senior, and learn how it was done. Of course we (I) made some mistakes, and I still work under the mindset of: "When you stop learning, you stop living." Trust me, you will get a case stuck in a die, and you will load some rounds you'll need to pull apart. But that's why they have stuck-case removal kits and bullet pullers! Just learn from it and love your new hobby. Then, one of these days, you'll be standing over a big buck, or bear, or elk, and feel something deep inside you that's the thrill of knowing you just took that trophy with something YOU made! Trust me again when I tell you there's nothing like it! Good luck and welcome to a unique club! [/QUOTE]
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