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New Gunwerks 6.5-284 Norma
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<blockquote data-quote="Buster Hemlock" data-source="post: 1743183" data-attributes="member: 109327"><p>Most guys running a 300 Win Mag at that type of range for elk aren't shooting the 180 but are typically running the 210, 215 or 230 if they are shooting Bergers, if another brand of bullets and there are many they are typically in this same general weight class. I have two 300 Win mags and one I run the 180's and one I shoot the 215's. If I think shots will approach the 600 yard mark or beyond I'm taking the heavier rifle running the 215's. Bore diameter, Sectional density and impact energy at minimum expansion velocity does matter at this range. If it didn't we could further step down from the 6.5-284 to a 240 Weatherby running 115 VLD's (it will launch them a bit faster than either the 6.5-284 or Win Mag) but would impact with similar velocity to both the 300 Win mag and 6.5-284 at 1000 yards but generate right about 100 ft/lbs less than the 6.5-284. Similar 100 ft/lbs drop in energy as going from the win mag to the 6.5-284 as going from the 6.5-284 to the 240 weatherby but maintaining similar impact velocity across the board. I say all this not to say the 6.5-284 isn't capable, again I'm a big fan of the 6.5-284, but there are some other things to consider and personally don't see a 6.5-284 as a go to 1000 yard elk rifle. Yes it can get the job done but there are better options at this kind of range. When you first started this thread you mentioned using this rifle for clients, are they as capable of a shooter as yourself or someone that can make a shot at these ranges? All worth considering. If they aren't capable shooters all the gun you can buy isn't going to help. Not trying to provoke a fight but illicit some productive thinking and conversation. Whatever you decide I wish you the best of luck and hope to see some trophy photos!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buster Hemlock, post: 1743183, member: 109327"] Most guys running a 300 Win Mag at that type of range for elk aren't shooting the 180 but are typically running the 210, 215 or 230 if they are shooting Bergers, if another brand of bullets and there are many they are typically in this same general weight class. I have two 300 Win mags and one I run the 180's and one I shoot the 215's. If I think shots will approach the 600 yard mark or beyond I'm taking the heavier rifle running the 215's. Bore diameter, Sectional density and impact energy at minimum expansion velocity does matter at this range. If it didn't we could further step down from the 6.5-284 to a 240 Weatherby running 115 VLD's (it will launch them a bit faster than either the 6.5-284 or Win Mag) but would impact with similar velocity to both the 300 Win mag and 6.5-284 at 1000 yards but generate right about 100 ft/lbs less than the 6.5-284. Similar 100 ft/lbs drop in energy as going from the win mag to the 6.5-284 as going from the 6.5-284 to the 240 weatherby but maintaining similar impact velocity across the board. I say all this not to say the 6.5-284 isn't capable, again I'm a big fan of the 6.5-284, but there are some other things to consider and personally don't see a 6.5-284 as a go to 1000 yard elk rifle. Yes it can get the job done but there are better options at this kind of range. When you first started this thread you mentioned using this rifle for clients, are they as capable of a shooter as yourself or someone that can make a shot at these ranges? All worth considering. If they aren't capable shooters all the gun you can buy isn't going to help. Not trying to provoke a fight but illicit some productive thinking and conversation. Whatever you decide I wish you the best of luck and hope to see some trophy photos! [/QUOTE]
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