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<blockquote data-quote="benchracer" data-source="post: 966701" data-attributes="member: 22069"><p>I agree with mudrunner's comments about Kimber. Though I have no personal experience with their rifles, over the years I have seen a lot of negative comments about them and very few Kimber owners who rave positively about them. Given their price tag, that kind of gives me pause.</p><p> </p><p>Personally, I am happy to buy American made products if the American manufacturers are making what I want. If not, I will buy the product that offers what I am looking for, regardless of who made it. These days, it seems American manufacturers, as a rule, are offering products made as cheaply as possible. Many people don't seem to understand the difference between getting something cheap and getting actual value for your money. Ironically, it is often foreign manufacturers that offer products made to an American style and standard, while U.S. companies seem to be trying to match Chinese style and standards. I don't care what their zipcode is. They aren't getting my money if I don't like their product. Period.</p><p> </p><p>Having said that, if it is important to you to buy something made in the U.S., you may wish to consider shopping for a used older model of a rifle you want and building it up, or going with a custom of some sort. That way, you can have both high quality and an American made rifle. Patiently cruising the used gun racks can yield some real gems at very good prices, if you know what you are looking for.</p><p> </p><p>One advantage of looking for a rifle as a base gun for a build is that, if you are able to get the rifle at a good price, you can often afford to have a good quality barrel installed and still be at or near the price of an off-the-shelf rifle. It can be surprising how much difference a high quality barrel and a bit of truing can make. Moreover, going that route also gives you the ability to choose a twist rate different from the factory twist, which allows you to use custom bullets that might not otherwise work well in a factory rifle.</p><p> </p><p>Most off-the-shelf rifles will require tweaking of some kind to bring out the best in them. Sometimes, you will get a rifle with a crappy barrel and only rarely will the factory replace it. Most of the time, they will say your minute-of-pie plate rifle is within specs. Even if you get a perfect rifle out of the box, you are still stuck with factory compromises that may or may not be a good fit for what you want out of your rifle.</p><p> </p><p>Done right, going the semi-custom route can give you a level of quality well above that of a new factory rifle at a price well below a full custom.</p><p> </p><p>Food for thought, anyway...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="benchracer, post: 966701, member: 22069"] I agree with mudrunner's comments about Kimber. Though I have no personal experience with their rifles, over the years I have seen a lot of negative comments about them and very few Kimber owners who rave positively about them. Given their price tag, that kind of gives me pause. Personally, I am happy to buy American made products if the American manufacturers are making what I want. If not, I will buy the product that offers what I am looking for, regardless of who made it. These days, it seems American manufacturers, as a rule, are offering products made as cheaply as possible. Many people don't seem to understand the difference between getting something cheap and getting actual value for your money. Ironically, it is often foreign manufacturers that offer products made to an American style and standard, while U.S. companies seem to be trying to match Chinese style and standards. I don't care what their zipcode is. They aren't getting my money if I don't like their product. Period. Having said that, if it is important to you to buy something made in the U.S., you may wish to consider shopping for a used older model of a rifle you want and building it up, or going with a custom of some sort. That way, you can have both high quality and an American made rifle. Patiently cruising the used gun racks can yield some real gems at very good prices, if you know what you are looking for. One advantage of looking for a rifle as a base gun for a build is that, if you are able to get the rifle at a good price, you can often afford to have a good quality barrel installed and still be at or near the price of an off-the-shelf rifle. It can be surprising how much difference a high quality barrel and a bit of truing can make. Moreover, going that route also gives you the ability to choose a twist rate different from the factory twist, which allows you to use custom bullets that might not otherwise work well in a factory rifle. Most off-the-shelf rifles will require tweaking of some kind to bring out the best in them. Sometimes, you will get a rifle with a crappy barrel and only rarely will the factory replace it. Most of the time, they will say your minute-of-pie plate rifle is within specs. Even if you get a perfect rifle out of the box, you are still stuck with factory compromises that may or may not be a good fit for what you want out of your rifle. Done right, going the semi-custom route can give you a level of quality well above that of a new factory rifle at a price well below a full custom. Food for thought, anyway... [/QUOTE]
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