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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff In TX" data-source="post: 144812" data-attributes="member: 1522"><p>[ QUOTE ]</p><p>Was this some sort of advertisement for Bartlein? They cutting you a break on price?</p><p>They might make barrels as good as others but come on..</p><p></p><p>What is this innovation their on the edge of?</p><p>Are they gonna make us more accurate barrels, or that last longer. Or was the ability to type twist into a machine to 3 places the innovation your referring too? And 'most uniform' is bragged by all.. Lapped. Yeah, there all lapped.. They all claim no breakin needed...Any used in BR, eventually win something..</p><p>Give us some difference to warrant this advertisement. </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ]</p><p></p><p>Mikecr,</p><p></p><p>Nope, not an advertisement of any kind! As I stated from the barrel breakin post, I believe it was Dzaw that posted about the ultimate barrel and new technologies. I continued that topic on this new thread with the information I had recently learned.</p><p></p><p>I had already had my g-smith order the new Bartlein barrel after hearing about them through my smith and talking first hand with them on the phone. I liked what I heard and I liked the fact they were new and they had new state of the art equipment. I'm not a machinist but I know what the newer CNC machines are capable of. For the traditionalist machinist I meant no disrespect. I also have no ties with the company other than I ordered a barrel.</p><p></p><p>I engineer and build network protocol analyzers. The analyzers of the past can get still get the job done…to a point, but they are slow, cumbersome and difficult to use. The user usually needs to be an engineer to interrupt the results and work with one. When they were designed they were state of the art.</p><p></p><p>Our new analyzers are lighting fast, easy to use and designed so that you don't have to be an engineer to use them or interrupt your results. Now in ten years I may think differently, but to today's standard, they don't get much better.</p><p></p><p> My thought process was much the same about machining processes and the newer CNC machines whether that was right or wrong. If CNC equipment wasn't inherently better, faster and/or more productive, why design and build it. </p><p></p><p>As for being more accurate…I hope so, time will tell. As for extended barrel life, unless someone figures out how to protect the throat better, that won't happen. On that subject, I thought if someone could integrate a ceramic section seamlessly into the throat area we might be on to something. </p><p></p><p>I don't shoot bench rest, just tactical competitions and long range hunting and shooting, so I can't answer the bench rest winning questions.</p><p></p><p>Seems as though I climbed under your skin with this thread. If you're a site moderator and view this as an advertisement which is isn't delete the thread. It wasn't meant as an advertisement of any kind. If it appears to you as an advertisement you're incorrect. If you don't like it big [censored], ignore it and move on. It wasn't directed at you or to be disrespectful to you or any traditional machinist. Just letting the other board members know about new barrel builders using newer or what I perceived to be newer and better technology and equipment.</p><p></p><p>When another board member mentions a new or existing manufacture of any kind, do you view their posts as advertisements? </p><p></p><p>That's it; I'm done justifying my thread. I'm not going to let this turn into a ****ing match, because of how you view it. Again if you're a site moderator or the others view it as and advertisement pull the thread. A lot of good useful information has been past on, whether you think so or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff In TX, post: 144812, member: 1522"] [ QUOTE ] Was this some sort of advertisement for Bartlein? They cutting you a break on price? They might make barrels as good as others but come on.. What is this innovation their on the edge of? Are they gonna make us more accurate barrels, or that last longer. Or was the ability to type twist into a machine to 3 places the innovation your referring too? And 'most uniform' is bragged by all.. Lapped. Yeah, there all lapped.. They all claim no breakin needed...Any used in BR, eventually win something.. Give us some difference to warrant this advertisement. [/ QUOTE ] Mikecr, Nope, not an advertisement of any kind! As I stated from the barrel breakin post, I believe it was Dzaw that posted about the ultimate barrel and new technologies. I continued that topic on this new thread with the information I had recently learned. I had already had my g-smith order the new Bartlein barrel after hearing about them through my smith and talking first hand with them on the phone. I liked what I heard and I liked the fact they were new and they had new state of the art equipment. I’m not a machinist but I know what the newer CNC machines are capable of. For the traditionalist machinist I meant no disrespect. I also have no ties with the company other than I ordered a barrel. I engineer and build network protocol analyzers. The analyzers of the past can get still get the job done…to a point, but they are slow, cumbersome and difficult to use. The user usually needs to be an engineer to interrupt the results and work with one. When they were designed they were state of the art. Our new analyzers are lighting fast, easy to use and designed so that you don’t have to be an engineer to use them or interrupt your results. Now in ten years I may think differently, but to today’s standard, they don’t get much better. My thought process was much the same about machining processes and the newer CNC machines whether that was right or wrong. If CNC equipment wasn't inherently better, faster and/or more productive, why design and build it. As for being more accurate…I hope so, time will tell. As for extended barrel life, unless someone figures out how to protect the throat better, that won’t happen. On that subject, I thought if someone could integrate a ceramic section seamlessly into the throat area we might be on to something. I don’t shoot bench rest, just tactical competitions and long range hunting and shooting, so I can’t answer the bench rest winning questions. Seems as though I climbed under your skin with this thread. If you’re a site moderator and view this as an advertisement which is isn’t delete the thread. It wasn’t meant as an advertisement of any kind. If it appears to you as an advertisement you’re incorrect. If you don’t like it big [censored], ignore it and move on. It wasn’t directed at you or to be disrespectful to you or any traditional machinist. Just letting the other board members know about new barrel builders using newer or what I perceived to be newer and better technology and equipment. When another board member mentions a new or existing manufacture of any kind, do you view their posts as advertisements? That’s it; I’m done justifying my thread. I’m not going to let this turn into a ****ing match, because of how you view it. Again if you’re a site moderator or the others view it as and advertisement pull the thread. A lot of good useful information has been past on, whether you think so or not. [/QUOTE]
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