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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 293706" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Woolecox,</p><p></p><p>I agree with your comparison of calibers but I will stick with what I said. In most cases you are right. My point is some get stuck on ballistic charts as I did 40 years ago. Now I have vast experience in what actually kills stuff better and there are some glitches in the ballistic charts. We are talking about elk hunting and large calibers are by far and away the best overall killers on elk. That comes from a vast amount of experience showing me that is fact. It is not an opinion. I don't care what the ballistic charts say because this is what I have learned. I am not trying to pick a fight on here with anyone and respect your opinion as well and appreciate your response. That is what this forum is all about and what makes it great. I have near 40 years of elk hunting experience and through hunting, guiding and filming have seen hundreds of elk taken with everything you could imagine. The facts I have learned are clear. They are not opinion.</p><p></p><p>If I were this gentleman I would go up to the 338 winchester which is essentially the same case as the 7mm remington. This rifle is an elk rifle. It will shoot a 210 swift scirroco with a .507 BC at over 3000 fps and perform better on elk than a 7mm rem mag. This load can be shot by most without a brake very accurately. The 225 accubond with a .565 BC can be shot at over 2900 fps but the recoil starts to be felt at this point without a brake. In my opinion the 7mm rem mag is at best a 600 yard elk rifle. The 338 winchester with these loads would be much better on elk within this range or further. If I had a trophy bull out there at 650 yards and my choice between the two rifles I would take either of these quality hunting bullet loads over anything in a 7mm rem mag.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 293706, member: 505"] Woolecox, I agree with your comparison of calibers but I will stick with what I said. In most cases you are right. My point is some get stuck on ballistic charts as I did 40 years ago. Now I have vast experience in what actually kills stuff better and there are some glitches in the ballistic charts. We are talking about elk hunting and large calibers are by far and away the best overall killers on elk. That comes from a vast amount of experience showing me that is fact. It is not an opinion. I don't care what the ballistic charts say because this is what I have learned. I am not trying to pick a fight on here with anyone and respect your opinion as well and appreciate your response. That is what this forum is all about and what makes it great. I have near 40 years of elk hunting experience and through hunting, guiding and filming have seen hundreds of elk taken with everything you could imagine. The facts I have learned are clear. They are not opinion. If I were this gentleman I would go up to the 338 winchester which is essentially the same case as the 7mm remington. This rifle is an elk rifle. It will shoot a 210 swift scirroco with a .507 BC at over 3000 fps and perform better on elk than a 7mm rem mag. This load can be shot by most without a brake very accurately. The 225 accubond with a .565 BC can be shot at over 2900 fps but the recoil starts to be felt at this point without a brake. In my opinion the 7mm rem mag is at best a 600 yard elk rifle. The 338 winchester with these loads would be much better on elk within this range or further. If I had a trophy bull out there at 650 yards and my choice between the two rifles I would take either of these quality hunting bullet loads over anything in a 7mm rem mag. [/QUOTE]
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