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<blockquote data-quote="R. Cram" data-source="post: 2491415" data-attributes="member: 116633"><p>short barrels are fashion statements and waste potential velocity which is very important for hunting and for 1000 yd competition. I talked a young freind into going to a 1000yd match last summer and he enjoyed it and my hats off to him for going most people won't go. He has a 300wm which is good for both applications however the barrel life is short and as he learned the only way to be proficiant with long range hunting or competition shooting is to do it, just dialing come-ups and putting in a wind solution is not the answer trigger time is. there is another 1000 yd match next weekend and I asked him if he wants to go and he thoughtfully replied he doesn't want to eat up his barrel and wants to get a 308 to shoot so he isn't faced with replacing barrels. This is practical a 300wm or 6.5x284 or 243 or6.5 prc or 7mm rem all will be faced with needing a barrel at around 1000 rnds for acceptible accuracy at 600 yds at further . if you shoot 100 shots to get a good load and our matches are 600 800 900 an1000 yds with 20 shots plus sighters at each range that is close to 100 shots for a match. almost everyone who finally shoots a match enjoyes it and will shoot come back for more so if you shoot every match in a summer which if you want to progress is advisable and your skill level will increase rapidly doing so, one summer could leave you with an almost shot out barrel. A 308 needs 24 inches of barrel to stay reliably supersonic to 1000yds with of course some exceptions but it is silly to shorten barrels just for the fashion statement. I have been hunting for 50 years and have my favorite rifle a pre 64 win 30-06 with a 26 inch barrel an have hunted in every type of brush and open country and it is not very complicated to take the rifle off your shoulder to weave it through the brush and gladly do the weaving in order to get the preformance out of your cartridge. A 28 inch 30-06 is very close to the preformance of a 22 inch 300wm but doesn't eat the barrel at a rate which discourages a person for shooting and learning to do so better. the advice given here to read is wonderfull and never be nervous to go to a match nobody would ever ridicule you and instead would be very interested in helping. You will never see short barreled rifles at any type of long range competition as the are only a negative for that type of work. 6.5 creedmore is identical to a 260 rem and I shoot that across the course which is 200 300 and 600 yds and I gat about 2500 to 3000 rnds out of a barrel but a 308 will get 5000 to 6000 rnds so you will be less apprehensive about shooting it. 30-06 is great for hunting and long range and 5000 rnds for the barrel but it kicks more than the 308. have fun and shoot whatever you get a lot</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="R. Cram, post: 2491415, member: 116633"] short barrels are fashion statements and waste potential velocity which is very important for hunting and for 1000 yd competition. I talked a young freind into going to a 1000yd match last summer and he enjoyed it and my hats off to him for going most people won't go. He has a 300wm which is good for both applications however the barrel life is short and as he learned the only way to be proficiant with long range hunting or competition shooting is to do it, just dialing come-ups and putting in a wind solution is not the answer trigger time is. there is another 1000 yd match next weekend and I asked him if he wants to go and he thoughtfully replied he doesn't want to eat up his barrel and wants to get a 308 to shoot so he isn't faced with replacing barrels. This is practical a 300wm or 6.5x284 or 243 or6.5 prc or 7mm rem all will be faced with needing a barrel at around 1000 rnds for acceptible accuracy at 600 yds at further . if you shoot 100 shots to get a good load and our matches are 600 800 900 an1000 yds with 20 shots plus sighters at each range that is close to 100 shots for a match. almost everyone who finally shoots a match enjoyes it and will shoot come back for more so if you shoot every match in a summer which if you want to progress is advisable and your skill level will increase rapidly doing so, one summer could leave you with an almost shot out barrel. A 308 needs 24 inches of barrel to stay reliably supersonic to 1000yds with of course some exceptions but it is silly to shorten barrels just for the fashion statement. I have been hunting for 50 years and have my favorite rifle a pre 64 win 30-06 with a 26 inch barrel an have hunted in every type of brush and open country and it is not very complicated to take the rifle off your shoulder to weave it through the brush and gladly do the weaving in order to get the preformance out of your cartridge. A 28 inch 30-06 is very close to the preformance of a 22 inch 300wm but doesn't eat the barrel at a rate which discourages a person for shooting and learning to do so better. the advice given here to read is wonderfull and never be nervous to go to a match nobody would ever ridicule you and instead would be very interested in helping. You will never see short barreled rifles at any type of long range competition as the are only a negative for that type of work. 6.5 creedmore is identical to a 260 rem and I shoot that across the course which is 200 300 and 600 yds and I gat about 2500 to 3000 rnds out of a barrel but a 308 will get 5000 to 6000 rnds so you will be less apprehensive about shooting it. 30-06 is great for hunting and long range and 5000 rnds for the barrel but it kicks more than the 308. have fun and shoot whatever you get a lot [/QUOTE]
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