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<blockquote data-quote="orkan" data-source="post: 2490878" data-attributes="member: 25377"><p>In a training environment or hunting environment, when uninitiated shooters get into a group of exceptional shooters, there is only one cartridge people regret buying into more than 308win, and that is 338LM. </p><p></p><p>I've seen it countless times. The deflated looks. The broken spirits. Reality is an unforgiving teacher. </p><p></p><p>... and it is not caused by other shooters mistreating them or their choice. Anyone in my circle will be supportive and encouraging no matter what is brought. Instead, it's being presented with the first hand reality of what is happening down range and what is happening at the shooters location. More truthfully, it's what's <strong><em>NOT</em></strong> happening down range, and what <strong><em>IS</em></strong> happening at the firing position that cuts deepest. </p><p></p><p>I too was talked into a 308win over 20 years ago on a forum very similar to this. It wasn't a mistake, but it wasn't the right choice then and it certainly isn't the right choice now. At the time, I couldn't be convinced of that... but there was a lot of things I was wrong about back then. Despite the fact I won every rifle competition I entered with an 18" 308win... it wasn't even remotely the right choice. That wouldn't have happened that way today. </p><p></p><p>A 32" palma setup running 155's at 3000fps might con people into believing the 308 is more than it is... but it isn't. It never was, and it won't be. Yet I still have one. If it were my only rifle, I wouldn't. It wouldn't even make the top 10. There are still instances where the 308win is the right answer, but those use cases are <em>very</em> rare. </p><p></p><p>Every single day in a training/mentorship capacity I talk to a shooter that is unhappy with their choices which were colored by forum discussions such as this. I don't call people up out of the blue and tell them they are unhappy. They call me and tell ME they are unhappy, and why. The number of times that is as a result of them purchasing the wrong tool for the job is in the overwhelming majority. Having been misled and being unhappy about it, they all find themselves in the position of not knowing where to turn. The realization that forum posts can't product hits at distance, lands with a dull painful thud in their lives. Thankfully we get them out of it quickly and without issue. There are others that can as well. </p><p></p><p> </p><p>----------- </p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/primalrights" target="_blank">Follow on Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/primalrights" target="_blank">Subscribe on YouTube</a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3txlBnp" target="_blank">Amazon Affiliate</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.primalrights.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://primalrights.com/images/signatures/sig1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="orkan, post: 2490878, member: 25377"] In a training environment or hunting environment, when uninitiated shooters get into a group of exceptional shooters, there is only one cartridge people regret buying into more than 308win, and that is 338LM. I've seen it countless times. The deflated looks. The broken spirits. Reality is an unforgiving teacher. ... and it is not caused by other shooters mistreating them or their choice. Anyone in my circle will be supportive and encouraging no matter what is brought. Instead, it's being presented with the first hand reality of what is happening down range and what is happening at the shooters location. More truthfully, it's what's [B][I]NOT[/I][/B] happening down range, and what [B][I]IS[/I][/B] happening at the firing position that cuts deepest. I too was talked into a 308win over 20 years ago on a forum very similar to this. It wasn't a mistake, but it wasn't the right choice then and it certainly isn't the right choice now. At the time, I couldn't be convinced of that... but there was a lot of things I was wrong about back then. Despite the fact I won every rifle competition I entered with an 18" 308win... it wasn't even remotely the right choice. That wouldn't have happened that way today. A 32" palma setup running 155's at 3000fps might con people into believing the 308 is more than it is... but it isn't. It never was, and it won't be. Yet I still have one. If it were my only rifle, I wouldn't. It wouldn't even make the top 10. There are still instances where the 308win is the right answer, but those use cases are [I]very[/I] rare. Every single day in a training/mentorship capacity I talk to a shooter that is unhappy with their choices which were colored by forum discussions such as this. I don't call people up out of the blue and tell them they are unhappy. They call me and tell ME they are unhappy, and why. The number of times that is as a result of them purchasing the wrong tool for the job is in the overwhelming majority. Having been misled and being unhappy about it, they all find themselves in the position of not knowing where to turn. The realization that forum posts can't product hits at distance, lands with a dull painful thud in their lives. Thankfully we get them out of it quickly and without issue. There are others that can as well. ----------- [URL='https://www.instagram.com/primalrights']Follow on Instagram[/URL] [URL='https://www.youtube.com/user/primalrights']Subscribe on YouTube[/URL] [URL='https://amzn.to/3txlBnp']Amazon Affiliate[/URL] [URL='http://www.primalrights.com'][IMG]http://primalrights.com/images/signatures/sig1.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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