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<blockquote data-quote="Sako7STW" data-source="post: 486630" data-attributes="member: 2112"><p>Biased? I am biased towards my Kowa yes, for good reason. However I never stated the Vortex wasn't good. I am sure infact that it is very good and most consider it the leader in it's pricing category and with what little time I spent behind one I would have to agree as well. Is it better than the Swaro HD, I highly doubt it. Is it as good as the Swaro HD, Maybe at first look through it may seem as such. Is the Swaro worth the extra money? I think that comes down to what it is being used for and just how much exact detail one is looking for. </p><p></p><p>Let's throw this hypothetical scenario out there that I think is actually quiet realistic. If a big Muley is Laying under a pine 2000 yards off and one is trying to get a true idea of point size and number, width, ect. I am betting that's when you will see a difference. Using a good upper mid level scope, lets say it is decided to pass on the buck as you can tell its a buck but just cant tell if he is worth the work. The guy with the Swaro HD can see there is a drop tine on each side and those limbs to the one side arent limbs but kickers off to the side of the horn putting the buck in a 36" class. You see the buck coming out that night on the back of his horse, knowing that's the buck you passed up. Is the extra money worth it then? At first look you may be able to not really see a difference between the two scopes but when the time comes to get down to some serious looking and studying, there is a difference, I would bet on that.</p><p></p><p>I know the gentleman said he was looking to save money but when one looks at his profession, can he really afford anything less than upper end? If I looked over and seen my guide using a Tasco (I know extreme but still) I would pack up leave. </p><p></p><p>The Vortex is a great scope and Vortex is a great brand, I own their Bino's for a reason....value. I think everyone is missing a few key points the original poster said..."I am also out at times looking for exotics, predators and hogs; which means I do a fair amount of glassing at night when the moon is full." Most spotters are atleast 15x at lowest power. 15x at NIGHT is not easily done with any scope yet alone at 20x and will require VERY VERY good optics and a BIG objective to transfer the necessary light. The Vortex will do this pretty well I am thinking, as well as the next step cheaper, the Zen Ray and the Theron. I would have a VERY hard time recommending the Leupy and it's 60mm objective for night viewing even though it goes down to 12X. The mentioned Celestron's may be a very good option to look into as well, especially the 100mm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sako7STW, post: 486630, member: 2112"] Biased? I am biased towards my Kowa yes, for good reason. However I never stated the Vortex wasn't good. I am sure infact that it is very good and most consider it the leader in it's pricing category and with what little time I spent behind one I would have to agree as well. Is it better than the Swaro HD, I highly doubt it. Is it as good as the Swaro HD, Maybe at first look through it may seem as such. Is the Swaro worth the extra money? I think that comes down to what it is being used for and just how much exact detail one is looking for. Let's throw this hypothetical scenario out there that I think is actually quiet realistic. If a big Muley is Laying under a pine 2000 yards off and one is trying to get a true idea of point size and number, width, ect. I am betting that's when you will see a difference. Using a good upper mid level scope, lets say it is decided to pass on the buck as you can tell its a buck but just cant tell if he is worth the work. The guy with the Swaro HD can see there is a drop tine on each side and those limbs to the one side arent limbs but kickers off to the side of the horn putting the buck in a 36" class. You see the buck coming out that night on the back of his horse, knowing that's the buck you passed up. Is the extra money worth it then? At first look you may be able to not really see a difference between the two scopes but when the time comes to get down to some serious looking and studying, there is a difference, I would bet on that. I know the gentleman said he was looking to save money but when one looks at his profession, can he really afford anything less than upper end? If I looked over and seen my guide using a Tasco (I know extreme but still) I would pack up leave. The Vortex is a great scope and Vortex is a great brand, I own their Bino's for a reason....value. I think everyone is missing a few key points the original poster said..."I am also out at times looking for exotics, predators and hogs; which means I do a fair amount of glassing at night when the moon is full." Most spotters are atleast 15x at lowest power. 15x at NIGHT is not easily done with any scope yet alone at 20x and will require VERY VERY good optics and a BIG objective to transfer the necessary light. The Vortex will do this pretty well I am thinking, as well as the next step cheaper, the Zen Ray and the Theron. I would have a VERY hard time recommending the Leupy and it's 60mm objective for night viewing even though it goes down to 12X. The mentioned Celestron's may be a very good option to look into as well, especially the 100mm. [/QUOTE]
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