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<blockquote data-quote="Mysticplayer" data-source="post: 2369" data-attributes="member: 8947"><p>I will offer what I have done for myself as an example. Deer is what I would be LR shooting for. Body weight under 250lbs.</p><p></p><p>I am guessing that this will be a bench type rifle so weight will not be an issue. Go with the best barrel you can afford and a fair commercial or military action. I used a P14 enfield action. Commercial rifles tend not to have barrels accurate enough to hit your size of target at long range. Get some trigger work done to get it crisp and as light as you can handle. Proper bedding and a solid stock are a given.</p><p></p><p>Cartridge will be a larger case magnum. Mine was a 300Wby. The 300RUM, win mag are also good options. If you lean towards the 7mm, then 7 STW, 7 RUM would be good choices.</p><p></p><p>Bullet weights could range from the 155 to 240gr in the 30 cal. Most would suggest the 220 or 240gr MK but may be difficult for you to get. The Hornady AMax are wonderful bullets and a 155 to 179gr bullet may be a lot easier to find. Nosler BT are also great choices. Accuracy is paramount. At the long ranges, impact vel. is so low that even a "lightly" constructed match bullet will work fine.</p><p></p><p>Would lean towards the 150 to 180gr 7mm bullets. Of course, match type bullets are better choices. Not so for close in shots.</p><p></p><p>I want a min of 3000fps for muzzle vel. More of course would be better. This may dictate a barrel over 28" long. Most here will use a barrel as long as possible.</p><p></p><p>The best optics you can afford with repeatable target knobs. A quality rangefinder, and spotting scope/binos. Also a solid rest and bench.</p><p></p><p>Those are the general parameters I have considered and my rig can be effectively used to 1000yds plus on deer.</p><p></p><p>The last ingredient is practise and load development. You need to maintain an accuracy level about 2/3 the size of your target at your furthest range to be effective. So enjoy lots of shooting.</p><p></p><p>I am unaware of an off the rack rifle that will deliver the type of consistent performance you want. There is always the "hummer" factory gun you hear of but as a rule...no. Savage, and Sako/Tikka are excellent. As are some Remingtons and CZ's. Most can be made to shoot MOA or better, but if you are trying to hit a 6" target at 1000m you are going to need more then MOA on occasion. Save money and rebarrel a cheaper used rifle.</p><p></p><p>Good luck...</p><p></p><p>Jerry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mysticplayer, post: 2369, member: 8947"] I will offer what I have done for myself as an example. Deer is what I would be LR shooting for. Body weight under 250lbs. I am guessing that this will be a bench type rifle so weight will not be an issue. Go with the best barrel you can afford and a fair commercial or military action. I used a P14 enfield action. Commercial rifles tend not to have barrels accurate enough to hit your size of target at long range. Get some trigger work done to get it crisp and as light as you can handle. Proper bedding and a solid stock are a given. Cartridge will be a larger case magnum. Mine was a 300Wby. The 300RUM, win mag are also good options. If you lean towards the 7mm, then 7 STW, 7 RUM would be good choices. Bullet weights could range from the 155 to 240gr in the 30 cal. Most would suggest the 220 or 240gr MK but may be difficult for you to get. The Hornady AMax are wonderful bullets and a 155 to 179gr bullet may be a lot easier to find. Nosler BT are also great choices. Accuracy is paramount. At the long ranges, impact vel. is so low that even a "lightly" constructed match bullet will work fine. Would lean towards the 150 to 180gr 7mm bullets. Of course, match type bullets are better choices. Not so for close in shots. I want a min of 3000fps for muzzle vel. More of course would be better. This may dictate a barrel over 28" long. Most here will use a barrel as long as possible. The best optics you can afford with repeatable target knobs. A quality rangefinder, and spotting scope/binos. Also a solid rest and bench. Those are the general parameters I have considered and my rig can be effectively used to 1000yds plus on deer. The last ingredient is practise and load development. You need to maintain an accuracy level about 2/3 the size of your target at your furthest range to be effective. So enjoy lots of shooting. I am unaware of an off the rack rifle that will deliver the type of consistent performance you want. There is always the "hummer" factory gun you hear of but as a rule...no. Savage, and Sako/Tikka are excellent. As are some Remingtons and CZ's. Most can be made to shoot MOA or better, but if you are trying to hit a 6" target at 1000m you are going to need more then MOA on occasion. Save money and rebarrel a cheaper used rifle. Good luck... Jerry [/QUOTE]
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