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<blockquote data-quote="longrangedude" data-source="post: 1501845" data-attributes="member: 91150"><p>Here's my $.02. I have multiple custom rifles that I have had built by very reputable smiths, and have had great results with all of them - after proper load development. I also have several dead-stock factory rifles that shoot crazy good groups - after proper load development - and even in some cases after shooting Tubbs bore lapping bullets to knock down the huge ridges in the bore. I'm talking about 1/2 MOA or less groups at 100 yards and beyond. My 40+ year shooting / reloading / gun / competitive shooting / hunting experience tells me that today you can BUY and GREAT factory rifle and spend a fraction of the money of a custom rifle, and get it to shoot virtually like a high-dollar custom rifle, and then spend your $$$ on great optics / range finder / ballistic calculator / ammo. Working to get a better group than 1/2 MOA is a very wasted effort. Go talk to Bryan Litz about that. I just helped a buddy sight in his new Rem 700 in 300 Win Mag and he brought 180 Rem Core Lokt factory ammo - the most run-of-the-mill ammo on the planet - to the range. He had purchased a Vortex Viper PST Gen II scope and great Vortex rings and we bore sighted it and proceeded to shoot a 1/2 MOA group with that load with very good ES. Don't get me wrong - I am not advocating using this basic load / bullet for long range shooting or hunting but it makes the point - factory stuff - when paired properly - is dang good these days. The NEED for a high-priced gun is pretty much gone. Also, what is the purpose of use? Hunting? Then the Proof Research Barrel - even with the carbon fiber - is still about as heavy as a well-fluted SS barrel for a fraction of the cost from a Bartlein or such.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="longrangedude, post: 1501845, member: 91150"] Here's my $.02. I have multiple custom rifles that I have had built by very reputable smiths, and have had great results with all of them - after proper load development. I also have several dead-stock factory rifles that shoot crazy good groups - after proper load development - and even in some cases after shooting Tubbs bore lapping bullets to knock down the huge ridges in the bore. I'm talking about 1/2 MOA or less groups at 100 yards and beyond. My 40+ year shooting / reloading / gun / competitive shooting / hunting experience tells me that today you can BUY and GREAT factory rifle and spend a fraction of the money of a custom rifle, and get it to shoot virtually like a high-dollar custom rifle, and then spend your $$$ on great optics / range finder / ballistic calculator / ammo. Working to get a better group than 1/2 MOA is a very wasted effort. Go talk to Bryan Litz about that. I just helped a buddy sight in his new Rem 700 in 300 Win Mag and he brought 180 Rem Core Lokt factory ammo - the most run-of-the-mill ammo on the planet - to the range. He had purchased a Vortex Viper PST Gen II scope and great Vortex rings and we bore sighted it and proceeded to shoot a 1/2 MOA group with that load with very good ES. Don't get me wrong - I am not advocating using this basic load / bullet for long range shooting or hunting but it makes the point - factory stuff - when paired properly - is dang good these days. The NEED for a high-priced gun is pretty much gone. Also, what is the purpose of use? Hunting? Then the Proof Research Barrel - even with the carbon fiber - is still about as heavy as a well-fluted SS barrel for a fraction of the cost from a Bartlein or such. [/QUOTE]
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