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<blockquote data-quote="Mikecr" data-source="post: 1739850" data-attributes="member: 1521"><p>This is just backwards of results produced by a better plan. And if you posted your plan, all of us with experience in this would see right off why it wouldn't work.</p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to imply anything negative about the '99%'. It's just reality.</p><p>People either know what they're doing with minimal sizing options, and make it work -with an upfront plan, or they don't know, and their hap-hazard attempts amount to screwing a pooch.</p><p></p><p>I use a standard factory Cooper in 223Rem for GH hunting. This is a pretty good example situation. With my load including FB BR bullets it groups in the 2s at 100, and 3/8moa grouping, with 1/4moa accuracy to 500yds. It's a 500yd GH gun that I set up for my son.</p><p>The Lapua brass prepped many years ago will last forever, and it's never been FL sized. I bump shoulders with a custom bump die, and bushing neck size with a Wilson.</p><p></p><p><em>Would FL sizing make the gun shoot better? </em></p><p>I seriously doubt it, as I doubt the gun could be expected to shoot better.</p><p>It might shoot <u>as well</u> FL sized, but I don't know, and can think of no reason that it would.</p><p><em>Would FL sizing be easier for a reloading plan?</em></p><p>Not in the long run, and it's not like my reloading is difficult. I don't have to trim, or re-anneal often, or replace cases. My extraction is good, pockets staying tight.</p><p><em>Why am I not whining about problems with neck sizing?</em></p><p>I don't have any problems. It's a 223Rem, small area, thick for diameter, and while a very unimproved design, it lends itself to extended minimal sizing. I also do not produce poor ammo in general. I measure everything ever time, taking no shortcuts.</p><p>For example, I don't surprise myself with a case tighter than others to throw a shot, nor with any similar issues -that we should never hear happening to competitors for sure.. That's my plan with 223Rem. And I've done it in 6BR, 6XC, and 260AI.</p><p><em>Would my plan work in standard 243Win or 308Win?</em></p><p>Not for long.</p><p><em>Would my plan work in 6PPC at competitive pressures?</em></p><p><em>No.</em></p><p><em>Would my plan work in 30-06 or 264wm?</em></p><p>Not possible at all.</p><p><em>When can you get away with true NSing only?</em></p><p>Only with an improved cartridge, tight to fitted chamber, an action providing enough barrel steel around the chamber, coned breech, bullet/powder choices and cartridge capacities no bigger than goals met within SAAMI/reasonable max pressures, custom dies, and attention to details in reloading.</p><p>That's enough to remove the '99%' from qualified in this..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mikecr, post: 1739850, member: 1521"] This is just backwards of results produced by a better plan. And if you posted your plan, all of us with experience in this would see right off why it wouldn't work. I'm not trying to imply anything negative about the '99%'. It's just reality. People either know what they're doing with minimal sizing options, and make it work -with an upfront plan, or they don't know, and their hap-hazard attempts amount to screwing a pooch. I use a standard factory Cooper in 223Rem for GH hunting. This is a pretty good example situation. With my load including FB BR bullets it groups in the 2s at 100, and 3/8moa grouping, with 1/4moa accuracy to 500yds. It's a 500yd GH gun that I set up for my son. The Lapua brass prepped many years ago will last forever, and it's never been FL sized. I bump shoulders with a custom bump die, and bushing neck size with a Wilson. [I]Would FL sizing make the gun shoot better? [/I] I seriously doubt it, as I doubt the gun could be expected to shoot better. It might shoot [U]as well[/U] FL sized, but I don't know, and can think of no reason that it would. [I]Would FL sizing be easier for a reloading plan?[/I] Not in the long run, and it's not like my reloading is difficult. I don't have to trim, or re-anneal often, or replace cases. My extraction is good, pockets staying tight. [I]Why am I not whining about problems with neck sizing?[/I] I don't have any problems. It's a 223Rem, small area, thick for diameter, and while a very unimproved design, it lends itself to extended minimal sizing. I also do not produce poor ammo in general. I measure everything ever time, taking no shortcuts. For example, I don't surprise myself with a case tighter than others to throw a shot, nor with any similar issues -that we should never hear happening to competitors for sure.. That's my plan with 223Rem. And I've done it in 6BR, 6XC, and 260AI. [I]Would my plan work in standard 243Win or 308Win?[/I] Not for long. [I]Would my plan work in 6PPC at competitive pressures? No. Would my plan work in 30-06 or 264wm?[/I] Not possible at all. [I]When can you get away with true NSing only?[/I] Only with an improved cartridge, tight to fitted chamber, an action providing enough barrel steel around the chamber, coned breech, bullet/powder choices and cartridge capacities no bigger than goals met within SAAMI/reasonable max pressures, custom dies, and attention to details in reloading. That's enough to remove the '99%' from qualified in this.. [/QUOTE]
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