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My frustration with the word "custom".
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<blockquote data-quote="25WSM" data-source="post: 2088553" data-attributes="member: 38048"><p>This subject can be argued till the end of time. Does it really matter. The very definition of the word custom just means it was made for a particular be customer. Customize just means it was changed to be more suited to what you do with it. </p><p>Order a stock from any company and specify your action and barrel contour and bottom metal choice and color and it's considered a custom order. If you later take that same stock and have it dipped in your favorite camo now it's customized. </p><p>Why does it matter if you build a rifle on a Bat or Borden or a Remington 700 make one custom or not. All the so called custom actions are built in batches to all be identical on the same types of machines used to build a 700. There is nothing custom about them. Sure they might have better tolerance and a few features that a 700 doesn't have but they are still the action time after time. If there are 100s of the same one built to the same spec then how is it custom. </p><p>I built guns for 30 yrs and I could say that none were custom or all of them were custom and be correct. Think about the early days a smith would hand make a muzzleloader. He made the barrel. Rifled the barrel. Made the trigger and lock assembly. Fitted a stock to it. All in his shop. That is a custom built rifle. But if he then built 100 more exactly like it would they still be custom. If the guys new or said make me one of those barrels. Now make me a trigger and lock. Make me a stock. All just like the other rifles. And the neighbor puts it together. It's identical in every regard to the other rifles. What does he have. Garage to some. Or the same to others. </p><p>I have never made my own action or barrel or trigger or scope or carbon/ fiberglass stock. All I do is take the components that a customer wants and make a rifle from those parts. I don't care if a customer brings me a savage and a cheapest barrel he could find and a plastic Tupperware stock. Once I put it together by definition it's a custom. Is it really? By definition yes. By everybody's opinion no. Same customer comes back with a Borden and a Kreiger and a McMillan and a Jewel trigger and I build it. Is it a custom? By definition yes. By everyone's opinion? Probably yes. But why? Not a single component on this one is custom. All those parts are mass produced too. So basically I don't care what people want to call their guns. Everyone will label them as they see fit. </p><p>I don't care what people call the rifles I build either. I basically call them rifles. Doesn't matter how much the parts cost it's still a rifle. </p><p>Webster didn't mention that the definition changes when referring to guns. </p><p>Shep</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="25WSM, post: 2088553, member: 38048"] This subject can be argued till the end of time. Does it really matter. The very definition of the word custom just means it was made for a particular be customer. Customize just means it was changed to be more suited to what you do with it. Order a stock from any company and specify your action and barrel contour and bottom metal choice and color and it’s considered a custom order. If you later take that same stock and have it dipped in your favorite camo now it’s customized. Why does it matter if you build a rifle on a Bat or Borden or a Remington 700 make one custom or not. All the so called custom actions are built in batches to all be identical on the same types of machines used to build a 700. There is nothing custom about them. Sure they might have better tolerance and a few features that a 700 doesn’t have but they are still the action time after time. If there are 100s of the same one built to the same spec then how is it custom. I built guns for 30 yrs and I could say that none were custom or all of them were custom and be correct. Think about the early days a smith would hand make a muzzleloader. He made the barrel. Rifled the barrel. Made the trigger and lock assembly. Fitted a stock to it. All in his shop. That is a custom built rifle. But if he then built 100 more exactly like it would they still be custom. If the guys new or said make me one of those barrels. Now make me a trigger and lock. Make me a stock. All just like the other rifles. And the neighbor puts it together. It’s identical in every regard to the other rifles. What does he have. Garage to some. Or the same to others. I have never made my own action or barrel or trigger or scope or carbon/ fiberglass stock. All I do is take the components that a customer wants and make a rifle from those parts. I don’t care if a customer brings me a savage and a cheapest barrel he could find and a plastic Tupperware stock. Once I put it together by definition it’s a custom. Is it really? By definition yes. By everybody’s opinion no. Same customer comes back with a Borden and a Kreiger and a McMillan and a Jewel trigger and I build it. Is it a custom? By definition yes. By everyone’s opinion? Probably yes. But why? Not a single component on this one is custom. All those parts are mass produced too. So basically I don’t care what people want to call their guns. Everyone will label them as they see fit. I don’t care what people call the rifles I build either. I basically call them rifles. Doesn’t matter how much the parts cost it’s still a rifle. Webster didn’t mention that the definition changes when referring to guns. Shep [/QUOTE]
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