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<blockquote data-quote="ofbandg" data-source="post: 1530013" data-attributes="member: 91402"><p>I hear a lot of talk about recoil in these discussions, with many guns being chosen based on the level of rearward thump. As someone who learned serious shooting in the infantry and spent time as an instructor I believe much of the effect of recoil comes from lack of instruction and, even more, poor rifle design. In the army I was taught that (with iron sights, of course), you first look at your target and then bring your rifle up so the sights are between you and the target - and if you have to move around to find the target in your sights than the rifle needs to be altered. When I started buying hunting rifles I couldn't find one off the shelf that achieved that. For most of my adult life I was in the six foot, 200 pound category and every rifle I shouldered had too long a pull. When I started cutting them down to around a 13 inch I could bring them in to rest on my collar bone and keep my head more upright. This significantly changed how I felt recoil. The longer guns forced me to move the butts out toward my shoulder and lean my head over to see the sights and that torques on you when you fire heavy loads. Shortening the butt also made it easier to see through scopes when I began mounting them on guns, although I still found I needed extension rings on most rifles so I wouldn't have to move my head forward to get the whole picture. Over the years I gave up being surprised by how many time someone who is checking our one of my rifles commented on how well it fits them - or how the sight picture was right there when they picked it up - unlike their own guns. Some guys are so used to their own guns they stretch their necks forward when mounting mine and then complain that they would probably get whacked by the scope if they fired it. I gave up trying to explain why that isn't necessary. Dealing with an ornery grizzly is easier than telling adult shooters they are doing something wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ofbandg, post: 1530013, member: 91402"] I hear a lot of talk about recoil in these discussions, with many guns being chosen based on the level of rearward thump. As someone who learned serious shooting in the infantry and spent time as an instructor I believe much of the effect of recoil comes from lack of instruction and, even more, poor rifle design. In the army I was taught that (with iron sights, of course), you first look at your target and then bring your rifle up so the sights are between you and the target - and if you have to move around to find the target in your sights than the rifle needs to be altered. When I started buying hunting rifles I couldn't find one off the shelf that achieved that. For most of my adult life I was in the six foot, 200 pound category and every rifle I shouldered had too long a pull. When I started cutting them down to around a 13 inch I could bring them in to rest on my collar bone and keep my head more upright. This significantly changed how I felt recoil. The longer guns forced me to move the butts out toward my shoulder and lean my head over to see the sights and that torques on you when you fire heavy loads. Shortening the butt also made it easier to see through scopes when I began mounting them on guns, although I still found I needed extension rings on most rifles so I wouldn't have to move my head forward to get the whole picture. Over the years I gave up being surprised by how many time someone who is checking our one of my rifles commented on how well it fits them - or how the sight picture was right there when they picked it up - unlike their own guns. Some guys are so used to their own guns they stretch their necks forward when mounting mine and then complain that they would probably get whacked by the scope if they fired it. I gave up trying to explain why that isn't necessary. Dealing with an ornery grizzly is easier than telling adult shooters they are doing something wrong. [/QUOTE]
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