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MRAD vs. MOA
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<blockquote data-quote="SnowbirdUT" data-source="post: 1755341" data-attributes="member: 88029"><p>I hunt and shoot long range 1 mile +. All my scopes are FFP and Mil Mil. By that I mean Mil reticle and mil turrets. </p><p></p><p>I made the decision to go mil 20 years ago when most people were using MOA. The reason I chose mil is because it is base 10 so it is easy to make adjustments in your head. I range everything in metric but you could easily use yards. Intuitively, (most likely like everyone on this thread) can make calls such as 1/3rd of a yard (one foot etc). </p><p></p><p>Once you start using mils, your spotters will start calling shots in mils so you won't use actual distance such as 5cm, 15 inches etc. Instead, your spotter will say .5 mil right and .8 mil high. Those calls are independent of the shooters preferred distance units. </p><p></p><p>One of the commenters on this thread mentioned that MOA is more accurate than Mil or vice versa. This is only partially correct. It is true that .1 MOA adjustment is < .1Mil at 100 yards but the difference is tiny. Your rifle has the same accuracy either way. When I get my dope from my range finder, it will give me a drop of say 3.26 Mils. I will just round up to 3.3 Mils and call it good. The SD in my MV as well as wind creates a much higher error than 0.04 mils at any range (at least for me). I am just not that good that I would notice the difference and switch back to MOA. </p><p></p><p>I have a number of friends that started out with MOA and have switched to Mil. They all used to give me crap for having a "Euro scope". Now there are a few MOA holdouts left and we give them a hard time. </p><p></p><p>One thing for sure. Once you've made a decision between MOA and MIL, stick with it. You will likely by spotting scopes with reticles in the future and you will want those to be consistent with your scopes. We have 7 or 8 FFP scopes in my family and they are all Mil so we can swap them among rifles and family members.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SnowbirdUT, post: 1755341, member: 88029"] I hunt and shoot long range 1 mile +. All my scopes are FFP and Mil Mil. By that I mean Mil reticle and mil turrets. I made the decision to go mil 20 years ago when most people were using MOA. The reason I chose mil is because it is base 10 so it is easy to make adjustments in your head. I range everything in metric but you could easily use yards. Intuitively, (most likely like everyone on this thread) can make calls such as 1/3rd of a yard (one foot etc). Once you start using mils, your spotters will start calling shots in mils so you won’t use actual distance such as 5cm, 15 inches etc. Instead, your spotter will say .5 mil right and .8 mil high. Those calls are independent of the shooters preferred distance units. One of the commenters on this thread mentioned that MOA is more accurate than Mil or vice versa. This is only partially correct. It is true that .1 MOA adjustment is < .1Mil at 100 yards but the difference is tiny. Your rifle has the same accuracy either way. When I get my dope from my range finder, it will give me a drop of say 3.26 Mils. I will just round up to 3.3 Mils and call it good. The SD in my MV as well as wind creates a much higher error than 0.04 mils at any range (at least for me). I am just not that good that I would notice the difference and switch back to MOA. I have a number of friends that started out with MOA and have switched to Mil. They all used to give me crap for having a “Euro scope”. Now there are a few MOA holdouts left and we give them a hard time. One thing for sure. Once you’ve made a decision between MOA and MIL, stick with it. You will likely by spotting scopes with reticles in the future and you will want those to be consistent with your scopes. We have 7 or 8 FFP scopes in my family and they are all Mil so we can swap them among rifles and family members. [/QUOTE]
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