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MOA to MIL - did you switch?
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<blockquote data-quote="cummins cowboy" data-source="post: 1769972" data-attributes="member: 28348"><p>I am ranting? that is interesting. I use the hold offs for my initial shot if I am shooting far enough to dial. IE beyond 300 yards. that is way a plain crosshair is not what I am suggesting. although pdog hunting I just guess and think the wind is going blow my bullet off by such and such amount and just hold off. if I am shooting at an animal, coyote, big game whatever, I am using the hold off's of the reticle to make a wind call. Its typically a shot that isn't that rushed. I said all the reasons why seeing my miss in many cases isn't even able to be seen, even more I described how seeing a miss means nothing when the animal runs off anyways. to me seeing my miss in said circumstance is only usesful to determine if your scope is shooting off and you have lost zero, which isn't a bad thing to know. </p><p></p><p>all of what you are saying is too tatical of a school of thought and suggests range shooting under controlled conditions, ie the 20# rifle off a fake barricade scenerio. Which is ok if you are into that discipline but understand that is a very different discipline than hunting. you are likely to be doing it at a range, its way more likely to see your misses on the target burm, also its possible to be shooting at moving targets at extended ranges. I only shoot coyotes moving at long range, if its a big game animal and its a distant shot I need them not moving. I also plan on them bailing when the shot breaks. sometimes you get another shot because you are from such a distance that the animal is confused at where the shot came from. but either way the animal usually runs some distance and stops, in which case seeing a miss is of limited value. the whole reticle as a ruler thing is overthinking it, in a big game scenerio.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cummins cowboy, post: 1769972, member: 28348"] I am ranting? that is interesting. I use the hold offs for my initial shot if I am shooting far enough to dial. IE beyond 300 yards. that is way a plain crosshair is not what I am suggesting. although pdog hunting I just guess and think the wind is going blow my bullet off by such and such amount and just hold off. if I am shooting at an animal, coyote, big game whatever, I am using the hold off's of the reticle to make a wind call. Its typically a shot that isn't that rushed. I said all the reasons why seeing my miss in many cases isn't even able to be seen, even more I described how seeing a miss means nothing when the animal runs off anyways. to me seeing my miss in said circumstance is only usesful to determine if your scope is shooting off and you have lost zero, which isn't a bad thing to know. all of what you are saying is too tatical of a school of thought and suggests range shooting under controlled conditions, ie the 20# rifle off a fake barricade scenerio. Which is ok if you are into that discipline but understand that is a very different discipline than hunting. you are likely to be doing it at a range, its way more likely to see your misses on the target burm, also its possible to be shooting at moving targets at extended ranges. I only shoot coyotes moving at long range, if its a big game animal and its a distant shot I need them not moving. I also plan on them bailing when the shot breaks. sometimes you get another shot because you are from such a distance that the animal is confused at where the shot came from. but either way the animal usually runs some distance and stops, in which case seeing a miss is of limited value. the whole reticle as a ruler thing is overthinking it, in a big game scenerio. [/QUOTE]
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