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Minimum cartridge for 1000 yard elk
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<blockquote data-quote="WyomingShooter" data-source="post: 174146" data-attributes="member: 9529"><p><strong>338 for long range elk!</strong></p><p></p><p>If you are building a long range elk rifle then do not waste your money on a minimal weapon. Why not get the best? Don't ask which one will do the job. Listen to the top experts who have done this for years and some are on this forum. If you plan on making perfect shots at long range in field conditions then most any exceptionally accurate common elk rifle in the right hands will do the job. If you plan on doing this then please don't go any further with your plans. I don't want anyone out there sending beautiful bull elk off to die where they will never be found. Perfect shots at long range in field conditions can not be counted on. Just look at the 1000 yard match groups in perfect conditions. Heavy, large caliber bullets are the ONLY ones that will put an elk down with less than perfect shot placement.</p><p> </p><p>Now, understanding this you are ready to build your rifle. It will be one of the large capacity cases necked to 338 starting with the ultramag, Lapua size as minimal with the larger cases better. Even if you go down to a 340 wby size case it is still better than the smaller calibers on a big case. Remember we are not talking about what will kill one with a perfect shot, we are talking about if you are going to spend the money then get the best tool for the job. Big 338 bullets shoot through wind variances across high country canyons better than anything else. Then if you make a less than perect shot it still puts the animal down better than anything else. Just throw a lightweight rock and a heavy rock off a windy western canyon and see what happens. I own, have shot and seen elk shot with virtually every commonly used elk caliber in most every large commonly found case made. The impact of that big 338 bullet on game is devastating to watch and far more impressive than the smaller lighter calibers. There is a reason they have caliber/weight minimums in Africa for the big stuff. Think about it!</p><p> </p><p>From reading archives on this site I see that others here have also been doing this for a long time and become experts at this. Listen to these guys and get the best tool for the job. I see there are a number of guys on here who have there 300 ultramags and stw's and such and have taken an elk here or there at long range and swear by their rifles. Those guys have practiced and know there weapon inside out. They can take elk at long range. But they are not neccesarily using the best tool for the job. Listen to guys who have shot them all and taken elk for years. The big 338's are far and away the best choice. </p><p> </p><p>I have hunted and guided for elk for 4o years and seen hundreds of kills. I got very tired of chasing elk all through the mountains trying to finish them off after poorly placed shots from '06's, 270's and the like when a 338-06 or a 35 whelen would have done the job. At long range your at '06 case size velocities and you need the large caliber heavy bullets to do the job effectively. </p><p> </p><p>My appologies for getting so long winded. My intensions are not to affend anyone, but try to understand what I am saying. I have been there, done that, and got the T-shirt, hat, and coffee mug to go with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WyomingShooter, post: 174146, member: 9529"] [b]338 for long range elk![/b] If you are building a long range elk rifle then do not waste your money on a minimal weapon. Why not get the best? Don't ask which one will do the job. Listen to the top experts who have done this for years and some are on this forum. If you plan on making perfect shots at long range in field conditions then most any exceptionally accurate common elk rifle in the right hands will do the job. If you plan on doing this then please don't go any further with your plans. I don't want anyone out there sending beautiful bull elk off to die where they will never be found. Perfect shots at long range in field conditions can not be counted on. Just look at the 1000 yard match groups in perfect conditions. Heavy, large caliber bullets are the ONLY ones that will put an elk down with less than perfect shot placement. Now, understanding this you are ready to build your rifle. It will be one of the large capacity cases necked to 338 starting with the ultramag, Lapua size as minimal with the larger cases better. Even if you go down to a 340 wby size case it is still better than the smaller calibers on a big case. Remember we are not talking about what will kill one with a perfect shot, we are talking about if you are going to spend the money then get the best tool for the job. Big 338 bullets shoot through wind variances across high country canyons better than anything else. Then if you make a less than perect shot it still puts the animal down better than anything else. Just throw a lightweight rock and a heavy rock off a windy western canyon and see what happens. I own, have shot and seen elk shot with virtually every commonly used elk caliber in most every large commonly found case made. The impact of that big 338 bullet on game is devastating to watch and far more impressive than the smaller lighter calibers. There is a reason they have caliber/weight minimums in Africa for the big stuff. Think about it! From reading archives on this site I see that others here have also been doing this for a long time and become experts at this. Listen to these guys and get the best tool for the job. I see there are a number of guys on here who have there 300 ultramags and stw's and such and have taken an elk here or there at long range and swear by their rifles. Those guys have practiced and know there weapon inside out. They can take elk at long range. But they are not neccesarily using the best tool for the job. Listen to guys who have shot them all and taken elk for years. The big 338's are far and away the best choice. I have hunted and guided for elk for 4o years and seen hundreds of kills. I got very tired of chasing elk all through the mountains trying to finish them off after poorly placed shots from '06's, 270's and the like when a 338-06 or a 35 whelen would have done the job. At long range your at '06 case size velocities and you need the large caliber heavy bullets to do the job effectively. My appologies for getting so long winded. My intensions are not to affend anyone, but try to understand what I am saying. I have been there, done that, and got the T-shirt, hat, and coffee mug to go with it. [/QUOTE]
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