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Military Losing the Sniper War Against Russia?
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<blockquote data-quote="John Klingenberg" data-source="post: 1939628" data-attributes="member: 107749"><p>Snipers are over glamorized! This community is biased because we all love long range shooting. A ground commander has a set number of troops to accomplish the mission. Those troops have various skill sets to cover the gamut of possible scenarios. The sniper is like the micrometer in the tool box. It isn't used or needed as much as other tools but is extremely useful...when you need it. Ground warfare, especially MOUT doesnt often present a good place to utilize that long range capability. The troops are either moving too fast or those low rise houses dont afford a great view. A lot of the terrain we worked had a lot of houses that had walls surrounding them and no high points to over watch. The DMR and snipers covered the long range approach but once inside were excess weight. The DMR can serve dual roles, the dedicated sniper, not so much. When you set up a sniper he has to have an overwatch to cover his back side. This takes bodies you need on the ground kicking doors, evac of casualties or as replacement team members. The old days of scout snipers leaving the wire alone and going hunting are fastly fading and are really a job that special operations are more equipped to complete. If you have a very specific mission where multiple snipers are needed a commander can fairly easily call his fellow commanders and gather up a team. When large surges with battalion size pushes are going on in large built up areas (Think Fallujah or Ramadi) , a sniper platoon is readily available. We see movies where crap is portrayed. Air support is rare and usually too far off. You're lucky if you have any kind of air support on any kind of regular basis. Sniper teams sitting on a rock out crop calling in fire missions is the purview of spec ops. Everyday guys get one gunner and its usually enough and he rarely gets used. Just my personal experience. I have graduated the old M-21 course, 7th Special Forces mini course, a bunch of DOE classes and various other long range camps. I'm a fan, but the practical use of snipers is far removed from the "idea" of sniping.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Klingenberg, post: 1939628, member: 107749"] Snipers are over glamorized! This community is biased because we all love long range shooting. A ground commander has a set number of troops to accomplish the mission. Those troops have various skill sets to cover the gamut of possible scenarios. The sniper is like the micrometer in the tool box. It isn't used or needed as much as other tools but is extremely useful...when you need it. Ground warfare, especially MOUT doesnt often present a good place to utilize that long range capability. The troops are either moving too fast or those low rise houses dont afford a great view. A lot of the terrain we worked had a lot of houses that had walls surrounding them and no high points to over watch. The DMR and snipers covered the long range approach but once inside were excess weight. The DMR can serve dual roles, the dedicated sniper, not so much. When you set up a sniper he has to have an overwatch to cover his back side. This takes bodies you need on the ground kicking doors, evac of casualties or as replacement team members. The old days of scout snipers leaving the wire alone and going hunting are fastly fading and are really a job that special operations are more equipped to complete. If you have a very specific mission where multiple snipers are needed a commander can fairly easily call his fellow commanders and gather up a team. When large surges with battalion size pushes are going on in large built up areas (Think Fallujah or Ramadi) , a sniper platoon is readily available. We see movies where crap is portrayed. Air support is rare and usually too far off. You're lucky if you have any kind of air support on any kind of regular basis. Sniper teams sitting on a rock out crop calling in fire missions is the purview of spec ops. Everyday guys get one gunner and its usually enough and he rarely gets used. Just my personal experience. I have graduated the old M-21 course, 7th Special Forces mini course, a bunch of DOE classes and various other long range camps. I'm a fan, but the practical use of snipers is far removed from the "idea" of sniping. [/QUOTE]
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