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<blockquote data-quote="Hugnot" data-source="post: 2302279" data-attributes="member: 115658"><p>What's the problem? Use the laser range finder with the wonder scope having first focal plane reticle, but be prepared the work around a problem laser range finder in cold temps that gives inaccurate or no results. Be prepared to come up with a solution for up-hill or down-hill shooting should the laser range finder have cold temp problems for inclined range determination .</p><p> </p><p>for shooting at paper targets at known ranges, I like MOA's Some MOA scopes are made so 1/4 click is exactly 1/4 inch at 100, not 1.04/4 or 2.6" at 1,000. A 1/10 inch is tiny at 1,000 but when a sight correction calls for 15 clicks, 39 inches happen instead of 37.5 and the 1,000 X ring measures 5".</p><p></p><p>For field shooting I like mrad scopes having .1 rad adjustments and mrad reticles (mil dots) - the nice reticle gives me an idea how big things are out there, A mil dot scope having 10 marked spaces between mil dots is still a mil dot scope and works just great with .1 mil adjustments. The Christmas tree feature is nice for wind. A radian being a logical measurement of a circles radius being placed on a part of a circle's circumference.</p><p> </p><p>I like 16 X fixed power mil dot scopes having .1 mil adjustments, no tiny little reticle features at low power or un-useable ones except for selected power settings. 18" at 500, 36" at 1,000 between mil dots. How many shots will it take to hit the target?</p><p></p><p>Figuring out & using the mil or moa business is ridiculously easy math and familiarity might prevent long range screw-ups. Like on a really cold morning the laser range finder has problems and does not work or finally comes up with 875 yards but 12 spaces on the .1 mil space reticle cover a 4 foot wide object, meaning that the range = 48 * 27.8 / 1.2 = 1,112 yards. 1000/36 = 27.8. A mil dot reticle is a useful backup tool for a device that might fail. Cold is not nice to batteries. The size of the object at 1,112 yards = (1,112 / 27.8) * 1.2 = 48. Could the laser range finder determine the size of the object, like shoot the biggest one. Sometimes rail road ties placed 4 feet apart are used at the ends or corners of barbed wire fences.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hugnot, post: 2302279, member: 115658"] What's the problem? Use the laser range finder with the wonder scope having first focal plane reticle, but be prepared the work around a problem laser range finder in cold temps that gives inaccurate or no results. Be prepared to come up with a solution for up-hill or down-hill shooting should the laser range finder have cold temp problems for inclined range determination . for shooting at paper targets at known ranges, I like MOA's Some MOA scopes are made so 1/4 click is exactly 1/4 inch at 100, not 1.04/4 or 2.6" at 1,000. A 1/10 inch is tiny at 1,000 but when a sight correction calls for 15 clicks, 39 inches happen instead of 37.5 and the 1,000 X ring measures 5". For field shooting I like mrad scopes having .1 rad adjustments and mrad reticles (mil dots) - the nice reticle gives me an idea how big things are out there, A mil dot scope having 10 marked spaces between mil dots is still a mil dot scope and works just great with .1 mil adjustments. The Christmas tree feature is nice for wind. A radian being a logical measurement of a circles radius being placed on a part of a circle's circumference. I like 16 X fixed power mil dot scopes having .1 mil adjustments, no tiny little reticle features at low power or un-useable ones except for selected power settings. 18" at 500, 36" at 1,000 between mil dots. How many shots will it take to hit the target? Figuring out & using the mil or moa business is ridiculously easy math and familiarity might prevent long range screw-ups. Like on a really cold morning the laser range finder has problems and does not work or finally comes up with 875 yards but 12 spaces on the .1 mil space reticle cover a 4 foot wide object, meaning that the range = 48 * 27.8 / 1.2 = 1,112 yards. 1000/36 = 27.8. A mil dot reticle is a useful backup tool for a device that might fail. Cold is not nice to batteries. The size of the object at 1,112 yards = (1,112 / 27.8) * 1.2 = 48. Could the laser range finder determine the size of the object, like shoot the biggest one. Sometimes rail road ties placed 4 feet apart are used at the ends or corners of barbed wire fences. [/QUOTE]
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