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<blockquote data-quote="Mikecr" data-source="post: 329600" data-attributes="member: 1521"><p>Well here we go</p><p>1. Leupold has diluted their own merchandising to a pot of ****, by offering about ~600 versions of the SAME scope over the past 20yrs. Today it is impossible for a consumer to know what they are looking at, on someone's shelf, in Leupold. How old is it that's sold as 'new'? It could be 10yrs old! What lens coating is employed on it? What does the reticle subtend to? What are the differences between this Vari-X III, that VX-III? How many revisions has leupold applied to this line, and what rev do I hold in my hands? Is it counterfeit?</p><p>Truly, Leupold needs about 5 scopes in their lineup. 5 that they've perfected, and that cover all needs in shooting. They need to stop pandering to every whim for this or that, and focus on a best product they can offer. </p><p>Like NF used to....</p><p>2. NightForce is now caving to offer scope types they know nothing about(like their BR line). By listening to the loudest customers, they impose on themselves pressure to stop developing further -their flagship products. You remember, those products that put them on the map? With each new offering, they dilute themselves toward a market already full of trash scopes. It's not good for us.</p><p>3.Tactical scopes.. This is the perfect market for those more into image than performance, to whine about gadgetry. NONE are hunting scopes, so I'm content with anything they do to themselves, or their customers. </p><p></p><p>DEON(March scopes) recently provided an example of these problems. They took the advice of a BR shooter to make a BR scope. Did a great job, but; There was an opportunity early to first match a great do-it-all scope(like the Mk4), THEN apply improved glass and POA. Instead, they listened to ONE customer..</p><p>Now they find their market too weak, and so they rush to slap together revisions of the original product that 'look' like what it is -WE need. This is no longer product development, but late market pandering. It took a BR shooter to teach them how to make a BR scope. Who's 'teaching' them to make all these others in their overnight lineup? </p><p></p><p>I reason that diluted scope markets are bad for us, because they amount to more counterfeit and copying, than product development. We are not headed toward a perfect scope. We are not evolving. This huge market is even less likely today to provide what I've needed for the past 30yrs.</p><p>So when I hear complaints that Leupold should again revise their linup for MIL/MIL, it is depressing to say the least.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mikecr, post: 329600, member: 1521"] Well here we go 1. Leupold has diluted their own merchandising to a pot of ****, by offering about ~600 versions of the SAME scope over the past 20yrs. Today it is impossible for a consumer to know what they are looking at, on someone's shelf, in Leupold. How old is it that's sold as 'new'? It could be 10yrs old! What lens coating is employed on it? What does the reticle subtend to? What are the differences between this Vari-X III, that VX-III? How many revisions has leupold applied to this line, and what rev do I hold in my hands? Is it counterfeit? Truly, Leupold needs about 5 scopes in their lineup. 5 that they've perfected, and that cover all needs in shooting. They need to stop pandering to every whim for this or that, and focus on a best product they can offer. Like NF used to.... 2. NightForce is now caving to offer scope types they know nothing about(like their BR line). By listening to the loudest customers, they impose on themselves pressure to stop developing further -their flagship products. You remember, those products that put them on the map? With each new offering, they dilute themselves toward a market already full of trash scopes. It's not good for us. 3.Tactical scopes.. This is the perfect market for those more into image than performance, to whine about gadgetry. NONE are hunting scopes, so I'm content with anything they do to themselves, or their customers. DEON(March scopes) recently provided an example of these problems. They took the advice of a BR shooter to make a BR scope. Did a great job, but; There was an opportunity early to first match a great do-it-all scope(like the Mk4), THEN apply improved glass and POA. Instead, they listened to ONE customer.. Now they find their market too weak, and so they rush to slap together revisions of the original product that 'look' like what it is -WE need. This is no longer product development, but late market pandering. It took a BR shooter to teach them how to make a BR scope. Who's 'teaching' them to make all these others in their overnight lineup? I reason that diluted scope markets are bad for us, because they amount to more counterfeit and copying, than product development. We are not headed toward a perfect scope. We are not evolving. This huge market is even less likely today to provide what I've needed for the past 30yrs. So when I hear complaints that Leupold should again revise their linup for MIL/MIL, it is depressing to say the least. [/QUOTE]
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