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medium/short range rifle accuracy not to my expectations...next steps
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<blockquote data-quote="Bigeclipse" data-source="post: 1386879" data-attributes="member: 52437"><p>sorry should have included more details. It is a long story so didn't want to waste people's time but here goes. I did the intitial 10 round break-in routine. Shoot one..clean...repeat. Then started shooting 3 round groups and cleaning. The groups initially were atrocious (5inchs or more) with Hornady American whitetail ammo. This was off an adjustable front competition style rest with rear bag. I tried it with two different leupold VX3 scopes. I immediately sent the rifle back to Savage as I have NEVER experienced 5 inch groups, even during break-in. They sent it back stating with their premium ammo they got a 1.2inch group at 100 yards. They included the target. I replaced the plastic bottom metal with real bottom metal, torqued to 45inch pounds and shot. Again I was getting 3-5inch groups. My wife was present and noticed the barrel was jumping up VERY high off the front rest (like 5 inches high). So I then decided to shoot off bags with my frint hand holding the fore-end of the stock and the groups shank to the two inch range. I have used this rest for all my other rifles and never experienced this. So I decided ok...maybe it is not the rifle. I went to the store and purchased 3 other types of ammo Hornady SSTs, Winchester Powerpoints, and Federal fusions. I will admit I was a bit rushed but I shot a couple groups of each type. The Hornady SSTs gave us the best group at about 1.5inches. Mind you, I was letting there be about 2 minutes in between each shot during the groups and also letting the barrel completely cool between brands of ammo. I do not like shooting off bags (My groups are always better off that other rest with my other rifles) but for some reason this rifle bounces like crazy off that rest. So you can see my frustration. This was why I decided to myself...I want to rule out ALL chances for issues before I start load work up and was wondering if the rifle being ONLY pillar bedded and not fully bedded could be causing issue. I have never shot off a bipod but have heard you could potentially get the same "bounce" effect. Why type bipod could you recommend that wont break the bank but also is not junk and also what size? Thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bigeclipse, post: 1386879, member: 52437"] sorry should have included more details. It is a long story so didn't want to waste people's time but here goes. I did the intitial 10 round break-in routine. Shoot one..clean...repeat. Then started shooting 3 round groups and cleaning. The groups initially were atrocious (5inchs or more) with Hornady American whitetail ammo. This was off an adjustable front competition style rest with rear bag. I tried it with two different leupold VX3 scopes. I immediately sent the rifle back to Savage as I have NEVER experienced 5 inch groups, even during break-in. They sent it back stating with their premium ammo they got a 1.2inch group at 100 yards. They included the target. I replaced the plastic bottom metal with real bottom metal, torqued to 45inch pounds and shot. Again I was getting 3-5inch groups. My wife was present and noticed the barrel was jumping up VERY high off the front rest (like 5 inches high). So I then decided to shoot off bags with my frint hand holding the fore-end of the stock and the groups shank to the two inch range. I have used this rest for all my other rifles and never experienced this. So I decided ok...maybe it is not the rifle. I went to the store and purchased 3 other types of ammo Hornady SSTs, Winchester Powerpoints, and Federal fusions. I will admit I was a bit rushed but I shot a couple groups of each type. The Hornady SSTs gave us the best group at about 1.5inches. Mind you, I was letting there be about 2 minutes in between each shot during the groups and also letting the barrel completely cool between brands of ammo. I do not like shooting off bags (My groups are always better off that other rest with my other rifles) but for some reason this rifle bounces like crazy off that rest. So you can see my frustration. This was why I decided to myself...I want to rule out ALL chances for issues before I start load work up and was wondering if the rifle being ONLY pillar bedded and not fully bedded could be causing issue. I have never shot off a bipod but have heard you could potentially get the same "bounce" effect. Why type bipod could you recommend that wont break the bank but also is not junk and also what size? Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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