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<blockquote data-quote="James Jones" data-source="post: 124092" data-attributes="member: 8843"><p>I think that the whole energy debate is well and fine but I think that it boils down to deposited energy more than retained energy. I meen if you shoot an Elk with a 378Wby and a 300gr Solid bullet desgined for penitrating FEET instraed of inches then you not gonna kill him any faster than a 243 with a 80gr Partition. The big solid just won't leave enough energy in the animal to shut it down as fast as the smaller more violent round.</p><p>If you stick a 45acp in the ribs of a bull elk and shoot it hes gonna die pretty quick due to the massive damage on the lungs , the bullet may only just get to the second lung but it will kill him pretty quick and thats with less than 500ftlbs of energy.</p><p></p><p>So I feel that it boils down to the correct bullet choice rather than the energy it produces if you have a good bullet that will expand and penitrate reliably at the velocity you tend to hit the criter then you should have no worries.</p><p></p><p>I think that my 300 win mag shooting a 200gr Nosler accubond at 2900fps would be enough gun to kill an elk at 1000yds if the angle was correct as in broad side , or quartering to or away , this same bullet out of a 300RUM would probably broaden you shot oppertunity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Jones, post: 124092, member: 8843"] I think that the whole energy debate is well and fine but I think that it boils down to deposited energy more than retained energy. I meen if you shoot an Elk with a 378Wby and a 300gr Solid bullet desgined for penitrating FEET instraed of inches then you not gonna kill him any faster than a 243 with a 80gr Partition. The big solid just won't leave enough energy in the animal to shut it down as fast as the smaller more violent round. If you stick a 45acp in the ribs of a bull elk and shoot it hes gonna die pretty quick due to the massive damage on the lungs , the bullet may only just get to the second lung but it will kill him pretty quick and thats with less than 500ftlbs of energy. So I feel that it boils down to the correct bullet choice rather than the energy it produces if you have a good bullet that will expand and penitrate reliably at the velocity you tend to hit the criter then you should have no worries. I think that my 300 win mag shooting a 200gr Nosler accubond at 2900fps would be enough gun to kill an elk at 1000yds if the angle was correct as in broad side , or quartering to or away , this same bullet out of a 300RUM would probably broaden you shot oppertunity. [/QUOTE]
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