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Mass Shootings - Why?
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<blockquote data-quote="JimFromTN" data-source="post: 2538858" data-attributes="member: 113268"><p>The earliest known school shooting in the US was the Pontiac's Rebellion school massacre on July 26, 1764, where four Lenape American Indian entered the schoolhouse, shot and killed the schoolmaster, and killed nine or ten children.</p><p></p><p>There have been school shootings, mass murderers, and serial killers ever since. A certain percentage of the human race are homicidal lunatics. As the population increases, so do the number of crazies. Is the reason this sort of thing is happening more often because for some reason that percentage is increasing in our population, as suggested on here, or is it because they have easier access to far better tools they need to get the job done? Perhaps it a combination.</p><p></p><p>I think it was right after Sandy Hook, President Obama said no other country has had the mass shootings like the US. The key word being shootings. China has 2 or 3 mass killings at schools every year but its with knives not guns. The crazies are everywhere and you will never hear the media mention it. Perhaps they don't know because they don't want to. Its occurs on both sides. We refuse to do any studies on it because we are afraid they might tell us something we don't want to hear. We are afraid the studies will reflect whatever the agenda is of the people who are paying for it. Its a valid point. Its a shame bipartisanship is dead in this country.</p><p></p><p>Its absurd to think the government can fix this and its absurd to think gun control is going t fix this. Its also absurd to think the government wouldn't try to fix this through gun control. There are more guns than people in this country. Even if the right were willing to give in on some increases in gun control, its too late. There are little things that would probably help a tiny bit like making it mandatory for all states as well as the military to update NICS. I did not realize only 32 states update the system. There is a couple of mass shootings that may have been stopped by this and it would not affect you unless you had a criminal background. I wouldn't mind a background check on private sales as long as it did not have to go through an ffl. That is not going to happen. </p><p></p><p>People have been talking about mental health which seems like a good place to start but its not a whole lot different than red flag laws. I was talking with a friend at work yesterday about this. He is a good ole conservative boy. We are in healthcare IT. He showed me an email requesting an interface be written to update the NCIS system. Apparently, New York has a law that if a hospitals deem someone mentally unstable, they update the NICS system. I think there are other states as well. Made me think of that thread Muddyboots started about complaining about the issues he was having with his healthcare providers and how they coded something wrong. Can you imagine going into the hospital for a broken toe and someone screws up the coding and you get put in the NICS system and it take years to get out of it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JimFromTN, post: 2538858, member: 113268"] The earliest known school shooting in the US was the Pontiac's Rebellion school massacre on July 26, 1764, where four Lenape American Indian entered the schoolhouse, shot and killed the schoolmaster, and killed nine or ten children. There have been school shootings, mass murderers, and serial killers ever since. A certain percentage of the human race are homicidal lunatics. As the population increases, so do the number of crazies. Is the reason this sort of thing is happening more often because for some reason that percentage is increasing in our population, as suggested on here, or is it because they have easier access to far better tools they need to get the job done? Perhaps it a combination. I think it was right after Sandy Hook, President Obama said no other country has had the mass shootings like the US. The key word being shootings. China has 2 or 3 mass killings at schools every year but its with knives not guns. The crazies are everywhere and you will never hear the media mention it. Perhaps they don't know because they don't want to. Its occurs on both sides. We refuse to do any studies on it because we are afraid they might tell us something we don't want to hear. We are afraid the studies will reflect whatever the agenda is of the people who are paying for it. Its a valid point. Its a shame bipartisanship is dead in this country. Its absurd to think the government can fix this and its absurd to think gun control is going t fix this. Its also absurd to think the government wouldn't try to fix this through gun control. There are more guns than people in this country. Even if the right were willing to give in on some increases in gun control, its too late. There are little things that would probably help a tiny bit like making it mandatory for all states as well as the military to update NICS. I did not realize only 32 states update the system. There is a couple of mass shootings that may have been stopped by this and it would not affect you unless you had a criminal background. I wouldn't mind a background check on private sales as long as it did not have to go through an ffl. That is not going to happen. People have been talking about mental health which seems like a good place to start but its not a whole lot different than red flag laws. I was talking with a friend at work yesterday about this. He is a good ole conservative boy. We are in healthcare IT. He showed me an email requesting an interface be written to update the NCIS system. Apparently, New York has a law that if a hospitals deem someone mentally unstable, they update the NICS system. I think there are other states as well. Made me think of that thread Muddyboots started about complaining about the issues he was having with his healthcare providers and how they coded something wrong. Can you imagine going into the hospital for a broken toe and someone screws up the coding and you get put in the NICS system and it take years to get out of it? [/QUOTE]
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