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<blockquote data-quote="Rich Coyle" data-source="post: 1111018" data-attributes="member: 70559"><p>Mikecr,</p><p></p><p>Your post shows you have not compared Swarovski side by side with other scopes. You, like I used to think, believed Swarovski was better than it is. Consider the following side by side comparison. I returned that Swarovski and purchased another. It was not as good as the first. I did that again and again it was no better than the second one. I bought a fourth and it was barely better than the first but still not up to the resolving ability of the 6500. But the z5 blew it away in low light, but the z5 did not compare with the Nightforce.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The sky was totally overcast with an occasional sprinkle. That takes care of the weather. Now the glass.</p><p></p><p>I purchased my first Bushnell 6500 in 2009. I sent it back for warrantee work because it was blurry above 25X. When it was returned it was great on the top end but the lower magnifications were blurry. I returned it to Bushnell for a refund. After a few months I purchased another, the present one, which is better than any other scope I compared it to for daylight hunting; except my NightForce. </p><p></p><p>At the range I have compared this Bushnell with many Leupolds, Burrises, Nikons, a Swarovski, and others. None so far are as sharp or bright as this Bushnell except a Minox 62 <strong>spotting</strong> scope. With both set on 30X the Minox produced a barely sharper image. Since none were as good as the Bushnell and none were as variable as the Bushnell I decided to purchase a more competitive Swarovski to compare with. I already owned the 12-42X56 NightForce in the following comparison. </p><p></p><p>I compared a Swarovski Z5 5-25X52 ($1,675) with my Bushnell 6500 4 ½-30X50 ($620) and my NightForce NP-R2 12-42X56 ($1,440). It took about two hours to complete the comparison. I made an "eye" chart with five lines on an 8 1/2X11 copy sheet, laminated it to keep it dry, and taped it to a cardboard box. The lines are 9/32" wide with 9/32" spaces between the lines. After setting the box out I drove down the road a ways.</p><p></p><p>The test idea was to see at what range I could no longer see lines, but a grey rectangle and then turn the scopes up and focus them and record the magnification setting. After reading the following and think about the cost, which would you keep? After this comparison I returned the Swarovski for a full refund. </p><p></p><p>Here are the yardages and magnification results:</p><p></p><p>202 - Swaro: 5 1/2, Bush: 4 ½ with ease</p><p>236 – Swaro: 6 Bush: 5 ½</p><p>309 – Swaro: 8 ¼ Bush: 7 ½</p><p>393 – Swaro: 10 Bush: 10 ½</p><p>470 – Swaro: 14 Bush: 15</p><p>521 – Swaro: 16 ½ Bush: 15 ½ NightForce: 12</p><p>572 – Swaro: 17 ½ Bush: 17 Night: 12 ¼</p><p>690 – Swaro: 24 Bush: 24 Night: 18</p><p>706 – Swaro: 24 Bush 24 Night: 18</p><p>724 – Swaro: 25 Bush: 27 Night: 20</p><p></p><p>The day was quickly closing so I think the ability of the Swarovski's low light superiority over the Bushnell started to come into play at the 724 yard range. I am sorta impressed with the Leica 1200 reading the bush next to the box above 572 yards. But the biggest surprise came at 202 yards. If I didn't know they were lines, I couldn't make them out with the Swarovski on 5X and yet the Bushnell showed them with ease on 4 1/2X. Who would have guessed it</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rich Coyle, post: 1111018, member: 70559"] Mikecr, Your post shows you have not compared Swarovski side by side with other scopes. You, like I used to think, believed Swarovski was better than it is. Consider the following side by side comparison. I returned that Swarovski and purchased another. It was not as good as the first. I did that again and again it was no better than the second one. I bought a fourth and it was barely better than the first but still not up to the resolving ability of the 6500. But the z5 blew it away in low light, but the z5 did not compare with the Nightforce. The sky was totally overcast with an occasional sprinkle. That takes care of the weather. Now the glass. I purchased my first Bushnell 6500 in 2009. I sent it back for warrantee work because it was blurry above 25X. When it was returned it was great on the top end but the lower magnifications were blurry. I returned it to Bushnell for a refund. After a few months I purchased another, the present one, which is better than any other scope I compared it to for daylight hunting; except my NightForce. At the range I have compared this Bushnell with many Leupolds, Burrises, Nikons, a Swarovski, and others. None so far are as sharp or bright as this Bushnell except a Minox 62 [B]spotting[/B] scope. With both set on 30X the Minox produced a barely sharper image. Since none were as good as the Bushnell and none were as variable as the Bushnell I decided to purchase a more competitive Swarovski to compare with. I already owned the 12-42X56 NightForce in the following comparison. I compared a Swarovski Z5 5-25X52 ($1,675) with my Bushnell 6500 4 ½-30X50 ($620) and my NightForce NP-R2 12-42X56 ($1,440). It took about two hours to complete the comparison. I made an "eye" chart with five lines on an 8 1/2X11 copy sheet, laminated it to keep it dry, and taped it to a cardboard box. The lines are 9/32” wide with 9/32” spaces between the lines. After setting the box out I drove down the road a ways. The test idea was to see at what range I could no longer see lines, but a grey rectangle and then turn the scopes up and focus them and record the magnification setting. After reading the following and think about the cost, which would you keep? After this comparison I returned the Swarovski for a full refund. Here are the yardages and magnification results: 202 - Swaro: 5 1/2, Bush: 4 ½ with ease 236 – Swaro: 6 Bush: 5 ½ 309 – Swaro: 8 ¼ Bush: 7 ½ 393 – Swaro: 10 Bush: 10 ½ 470 – Swaro: 14 Bush: 15 521 – Swaro: 16 ½ Bush: 15 ½ NightForce: 12 572 – Swaro: 17 ½ Bush: 17 Night: 12 ¼ 690 – Swaro: 24 Bush: 24 Night: 18 706 – Swaro: 24 Bush 24 Night: 18 724 – Swaro: 25 Bush: 27 Night: 20 The day was quickly closing so I think the ability of the Swarovski’s low light superiority over the Bushnell started to come into play at the 724 yard range. I am sorta impressed with the Leica 1200 reading the bush next to the box above 572 yards. But the biggest surprise came at 202 yards. If I didn’t know they were lines, I couldn’t make them out with the Swarovski on 5X and yet the Bushnell showed them with ease on 4 1/2X. Who would have guessed it [/QUOTE]
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