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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 865648" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>I got the MCS T3 for my Vanguard build. It needed some work as well. The groove for the bolt in mine was about 1/4" too short and it had to be widened a little. The bolt handle cut out also had to be opened up a little. Also, the tang contour was not the right contour for the Vanguard tang as it came up above the stock. They use the Rem 700 shape for their stocks and then inlet for the Howa/Vanguard. We cold either build the stock up or mill the tang down. My smith suggested rounding the edges of the tang of the reciever because Idid not want to build the stock up.</p><p></p><p>Inletting the the barrel channel is a fairly standard procedure unless you have a standard sporter contour. Typically, you have to either open the channel up or bed it and float it depending on the stock and barrel contour. For my R700 300 RUM build i used an HS Srecision Sendero stock, but the contour was slightly smaller than the Sendero contour so it had to be bedded then floated so there wasn't a big gap between the barrel and the stock. For the Vanguard build in the Manners, there was a channel there but it had to be opened up a little. I'm surprised yours came without a channel. Mine had pillar installed although they advertised that the pillars would have be installed.</p><p></p><p>All told, for re-inletting the bolt groove, opening up the bolt handle groove and rounding down the tang of the reciever, probably an extra $200 additional build cost.</p><p></p><p>I would have gone with a B&C Medalist but they don't make the Varmint style (for heavy barrel) in the Vanguard standard/long action. </p><p></p><p>I like HS Presision stocks but I won't use another 700 action for a build. If I used a custom action, I would consider an HS stock.</p><p></p><p>Next Vanguard/Howa build I will go with McMillan. I like their choice of finishes much better anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 865648, member: 11717"] I got the MCS T3 for my Vanguard build. It needed some work as well. The groove for the bolt in mine was about 1/4" too short and it had to be widened a little. The bolt handle cut out also had to be opened up a little. Also, the tang contour was not the right contour for the Vanguard tang as it came up above the stock. They use the Rem 700 shape for their stocks and then inlet for the Howa/Vanguard. We cold either build the stock up or mill the tang down. My smith suggested rounding the edges of the tang of the reciever because Idid not want to build the stock up. Inletting the the barrel channel is a fairly standard procedure unless you have a standard sporter contour. Typically, you have to either open the channel up or bed it and float it depending on the stock and barrel contour. For my R700 300 RUM build i used an HS Srecision Sendero stock, but the contour was slightly smaller than the Sendero contour so it had to be bedded then floated so there wasn't a big gap between the barrel and the stock. For the Vanguard build in the Manners, there was a channel there but it had to be opened up a little. I'm surprised yours came without a channel. Mine had pillar installed although they advertised that the pillars would have be installed. All told, for re-inletting the bolt groove, opening up the bolt handle groove and rounding down the tang of the reciever, probably an extra $200 additional build cost. I would have gone with a B&C Medalist but they don't make the Varmint style (for heavy barrel) in the Vanguard standard/long action. I like HS Presision stocks but I won't use another 700 action for a build. If I used a custom action, I would consider an HS stock. Next Vanguard/Howa build I will go with McMillan. I like their choice of finishes much better anyway. [/QUOTE]
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