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<blockquote data-quote="sambo3006" data-source="post: 150355" data-attributes="member: 2740"><p>remingtonman,</p><p>No offense taken. I definitely wasn't saying the 25-06 won't kill elk. I also agree with you that we shouldn't take bad angle shots. But what we should do and what we do are often two different things (when I say we, I am speaking in general). My point is what if a guy does take the raking shot or shoots farther than he should, whether it is right or not, I think he (and the critter) would be better served to be shooting a heavier, larger bullet. Not saying that a 338 RUM would give you blanket permission to take a bad shot but I'll bet if an elk was hit from a poor angle that required lots of penetration to reach the vitals it would stand a lot better chance of killing the elk than a 25-06 or similar caliber. I just don't like to see any animal wounded. Believe me, I was sickened last year when I couldn't find my bull. I am fairly certain I hit it through lung tissue due to the splash of frothy bright red blood 30 ft from the hit site-- looked like the elk blew it out his nose.</p><p></p><p>There are alot of yayhoos out there who will fling lead at anything. I used to work at Bass Pro in the hunting dept and believe me, lots of guys pay absolutely no attention to bullet selection, just what ever is cheapest. Others use very light for caliber bullets such as 85 gr HP in the 25-06. It may drop deer like lightning but somehow I don't think it would have the same effect on an elk.</p><p></p><p>I think remingtonman and I share alot more in common in our opinions than at first glance. I would most definitely rather see someone use a 25-06 loaded with 115-120 gr partitions or other premium bullets than someone bring their 30-06 loaded with 125 gr ballistic tips. Unfortunately, many guys don't pay proper attention to bullet selection. </p><p></p><p>I just think that overall, inexperienced hunters would be better served with larger calibers as long as they shoot it well and proper bullets are utilized. When the first elk is spotted and the heart starts beating like a jackhammer, things don't always go by the book. If the shot isn't perfect or the judgement on proper shot angle or distance is clouded by a massive surge of adrenaline, the larger bullet might result in a dead elk instead of a wounded one. That is all I am saying.I figured this might stir some good friendly discussion. Thanks for your input guys.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sambo3006, post: 150355, member: 2740"] remingtonman, No offense taken. I definitely wasn't saying the 25-06 won't kill elk. I also agree with you that we shouldn't take bad angle shots. But what we should do and what we do are often two different things (when I say we, I am speaking in general). My point is what if a guy does take the raking shot or shoots farther than he should, whether it is right or not, I think he (and the critter) would be better served to be shooting a heavier, larger bullet. Not saying that a 338 RUM would give you blanket permission to take a bad shot but I'll bet if an elk was hit from a poor angle that required lots of penetration to reach the vitals it would stand a lot better chance of killing the elk than a 25-06 or similar caliber. I just don't like to see any animal wounded. Believe me, I was sickened last year when I couldn't find my bull. I am fairly certain I hit it through lung tissue due to the splash of frothy bright red blood 30 ft from the hit site-- looked like the elk blew it out his nose. There are alot of yayhoos out there who will fling lead at anything. I used to work at Bass Pro in the hunting dept and believe me, lots of guys pay absolutely no attention to bullet selection, just what ever is cheapest. Others use very light for caliber bullets such as 85 gr HP in the 25-06. It may drop deer like lightning but somehow I don't think it would have the same effect on an elk. I think remingtonman and I share alot more in common in our opinions than at first glance. I would most definitely rather see someone use a 25-06 loaded with 115-120 gr partitions or other premium bullets than someone bring their 30-06 loaded with 125 gr ballistic tips. Unfortunately, many guys don't pay proper attention to bullet selection. I just think that overall, inexperienced hunters would be better served with larger calibers as long as they shoot it well and proper bullets are utilized. When the first elk is spotted and the heart starts beating like a jackhammer, things don't always go by the book. If the shot isn't perfect or the judgement on proper shot angle or distance is clouded by a massive surge of adrenaline, the larger bullet might result in a dead elk instead of a wounded one. That is all I am saying.I figured this might stir some good friendly discussion. Thanks for your input guys. [/QUOTE]
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