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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 634032" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>I use several sets of their hand gun dies for cast bullets. Have not found a better die in my lifetime. The seating stem issue may show up on the Redding die set or just about anyother brand as well. It's the shape of the bullet with it's high B/C that's causing your issues. </p><p> </p><p> As for the tech not returning your call, all I can say is wait till you get a bad Redding die. These guys never made anything bad, and all you gotta do is ask them! Actually I'd have to say RCBS has the best cutomer relationship of any of the die manufacturers. Forster's not bad, but sometimes you have to prove you have a problem. I did once with a hand full of lock rings that were not square (maybe .005") I sent the guy a couple of them, and called me to apollogise. They sent me about a dozen new lock rings that were right. I had two friends that built 6BR rifles on Remington actions. Ron Pence cut the barrels and chambered them (a lot of folks think a Pence barrel is the Rolls Royce of gun barrels). They both ordered Lapua or Norma brass (couple hundred cases a piece), and had Sinclair send them Redding Dies (their best). The reamer was Pence's personal reamer, and a chamber cut with it will place in the top ten in any IBS meet on the planet. One of the guys brings me in a bag with a dozen or so cases complete ruined. Then the next day he brings in another handfull from the otherguy. He calls Sinclair about the issue as it looked to me like the neck wasn't cut right in the one die set I got a good look at. Sinclair trades die sets with both of them, and they promptly ruin another handfull of cases. One of them calls Redding to get some help, and the guy said it was the rifle chamber and not their die. B.S.! So the following Saturday they drive up to Sinclair, and Sinclair calls them, and they blew him off saying the chamber was bad (the cases had never been chambered). So Eric takes a new die set off the shelf and promptly ruins four or five cases out of his stock! Calls Redding again, and is flatly told they don't make bad dies and it's their problem. Eric pulls every 6BR Redding die set they have and all of them ruin cases. This time Fred calls them and reads the riot act to them, but the guys still say it's their fault. So Fred sends back four or five die sets and the cases. Turns out every 6BR die they built upto that time was junk. They made a die set for one of them, and the other just took a Forster die set out of stock (which worked better anyway). Later I saw a similar thing with a plain jane 30-06 die set from them, and even later I saw it with a couple 6PPC die sets. As for the ruined 6BR cases, Redding said they were not interested in replacing them, and the two guys have not spent a dime at Sinclair or Redding again. Now everybody will make something bad at onetime or another, but 97% will own upto it. </p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 634032, member: 25383"] I use several sets of their hand gun dies for cast bullets. Have not found a better die in my lifetime. The seating stem issue may show up on the Redding die set or just about anyother brand as well. It's the shape of the bullet with it's high B/C that's causing your issues. As for the tech not returning your call, all I can say is wait till you get a bad Redding die. These guys never made anything bad, and all you gotta do is ask them! Actually I'd have to say RCBS has the best cutomer relationship of any of the die manufacturers. Forster's not bad, but sometimes you have to prove you have a problem. I did once with a hand full of lock rings that were not square (maybe .005") I sent the guy a couple of them, and called me to apollogise. They sent me about a dozen new lock rings that were right. I had two friends that built 6BR rifles on Remington actions. Ron Pence cut the barrels and chambered them (a lot of folks think a Pence barrel is the Rolls Royce of gun barrels). They both ordered Lapua or Norma brass (couple hundred cases a piece), and had Sinclair send them Redding Dies (their best). The reamer was Pence's personal reamer, and a chamber cut with it will place in the top ten in any IBS meet on the planet. One of the guys brings me in a bag with a dozen or so cases complete ruined. Then the next day he brings in another handfull from the otherguy. He calls Sinclair about the issue as it looked to me like the neck wasn't cut right in the one die set I got a good look at. Sinclair trades die sets with both of them, and they promptly ruin another handfull of cases. One of them calls Redding to get some help, and the guy said it was the rifle chamber and not their die. B.S.! So the following Saturday they drive up to Sinclair, and Sinclair calls them, and they blew him off saying the chamber was bad (the cases had never been chambered). So Eric takes a new die set off the shelf and promptly ruins four or five cases out of his stock! Calls Redding again, and is flatly told they don't make bad dies and it's their problem. Eric pulls every 6BR Redding die set they have and all of them ruin cases. This time Fred calls them and reads the riot act to them, but the guys still say it's their fault. So Fred sends back four or five die sets and the cases. Turns out every 6BR die they built upto that time was junk. They made a die set for one of them, and the other just took a Forster die set out of stock (which worked better anyway). Later I saw a similar thing with a plain jane 30-06 die set from them, and even later I saw it with a couple 6PPC die sets. As for the ruined 6BR cases, Redding said they were not interested in replacing them, and the two guys have not spent a dime at Sinclair or Redding again. Now everybody will make something bad at onetime or another, but 97% will own upto it. gary [/QUOTE]
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