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LR Advantage - 7mm VS 30 Cal > Using the SAME CASE with caliber
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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 503741" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>I have taken deer and caribou over 1000 yards with the amax bullet. I do not use these on elk or moose. If you are splitting hairs like this you need to look at specialty bullets like the gs, cutting edge, wildcat, etc. I don't know what a Jazz is. If it is a necked 8mm rem mag then either will satisfy you. The only concern is caribou is in grizzly country and I like the larger caliber there. If the Jazz is larger than the 8mm rem mag case it is very simple. Go with the 30 cal so you will not need a new barrel when you get your load worked up for it. With good barrel life the 8mm rem mag case is as big as I have been able to go in 7mm. In 30 cal you can move up to the lapua and RUM cases with respectable barrel life.</p><p> </p><p>Look in that thread on 7mm remington vs 300 winchester and see if that helps. However the winchester is a larger case so not a good comparison for what you are talking about. I can just tell you I can kill any deer or caribou with either in the same case. I think hunting and shooting skills are going to play far more of a role than splitting hairs of these two calibers. I can tell you from much hunting experience I will always go with the largest caliber all else being about equal. I could easily take either with my 7mm STW's and a 162 amax at 1000 yards. I can shoot that bullet at 3250 fps out of it. </p><p> </p><p>Here is a comparison apples to apples from two I have shot extensively since the 70's. 7mm-300 wby vs 300 wby. 7mm-300 wby 162 amax accuracy load at 3270 fps. 300 wby 180 grain accuracy load 3240 fps. 7mm-300 accuracy load with 180 berger=3090 fps. 300 wby accuracy load with 208-210 grain=3030 fps. These are accuracy loads in my rifles out of the same case 7mm vs 30 cal. Run the numbers. I shoot all of them so I am not getting into a peeing contest of which is best. I can kill with either. Hope this helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 503741, member: 505"] I have taken deer and caribou over 1000 yards with the amax bullet. I do not use these on elk or moose. If you are splitting hairs like this you need to look at specialty bullets like the gs, cutting edge, wildcat, etc. I don't know what a Jazz is. If it is a necked 8mm rem mag then either will satisfy you. The only concern is caribou is in grizzly country and I like the larger caliber there. If the Jazz is larger than the 8mm rem mag case it is very simple. Go with the 30 cal so you will not need a new barrel when you get your load worked up for it. With good barrel life the 8mm rem mag case is as big as I have been able to go in 7mm. In 30 cal you can move up to the lapua and RUM cases with respectable barrel life. Look in that thread on 7mm remington vs 300 winchester and see if that helps. However the winchester is a larger case so not a good comparison for what you are talking about. I can just tell you I can kill any deer or caribou with either in the same case. I think hunting and shooting skills are going to play far more of a role than splitting hairs of these two calibers. I can tell you from much hunting experience I will always go with the largest caliber all else being about equal. I could easily take either with my 7mm STW's and a 162 amax at 1000 yards. I can shoot that bullet at 3250 fps out of it. Here is a comparison apples to apples from two I have shot extensively since the 70's. 7mm-300 wby vs 300 wby. 7mm-300 wby 162 amax accuracy load at 3270 fps. 300 wby 180 grain accuracy load 3240 fps. 7mm-300 accuracy load with 180 berger=3090 fps. 300 wby accuracy load with 208-210 grain=3030 fps. These are accuracy loads in my rifles out of the same case 7mm vs 30 cal. Run the numbers. I shoot all of them so I am not getting into a peeing contest of which is best. I can kill with either. Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
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