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<blockquote data-quote="orkan" data-source="post: 2491786" data-attributes="member: 25377"><p>I'm a big advocate of proofing loads at distance. Especially at any distance the load is to be used. We have no disagreement there at all. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Though I've not seen an instance where a load worked at 100yds that was pure didn't translate to distance. Conversely I've seen countless students that didn't have the proper load at 100 fall to pieces as you describe at distance. Yet the fact remains that past 100yds, atmospherics tend to clutter up the testing for shooters that can't cycle their actions fast enough to stay in proper control of the condition. This is especially evident out here in the prairie where the wind blows constantly. So there is a specific reality to what will produce consistent success which depends on experience level as well as where the shooting is being done. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps what we're really talking about here is what "can" work, versus what will be virtually guaranteed to work for everyone all of the time. Every time I push shooters out in 100yd increments, the demand on the shooter becomes exponentially greater for every hundred yards added. Mental aspects, optic limitations, atmospheric considerations, ballistic effects. It all increases in a non-linear fashion at some yardage. </p><p></p><p>It's easy to see how I'm expected to provide techniques that will absolutely work, rather than what "can" work. Over the years I've made a concentrated effort to boil down the methods to provide guaranteed results. Lots of rounds fired to learn it. I'm currently loading for 17 cartridges among my own rifles which I'm trying to cull drastically. As you're seemingly aware... that can be demanding. </p><p></p><p>Lots of ways that can work, but usually only one best way. Sometimes that can be super hard to quantify. Other times it's pretty easy. </p><p></p><p>Thanks for your perspective. </p><p></p><p></p><p>----------- </p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/primalrights" target="_blank">Follow on Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/primalrights" target="_blank">Subscribe on YouTube</a></p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3txlBnp" target="_blank">Amazon Affiliate</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.primalrights.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://primalrights.com/images/signatures/sig1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="orkan, post: 2491786, member: 25377"] I'm a big advocate of proofing loads at distance. Especially at any distance the load is to be used. We have no disagreement there at all. :) Though I've not seen an instance where a load worked at 100yds that was pure didn't translate to distance. Conversely I've seen countless students that didn't have the proper load at 100 fall to pieces as you describe at distance. Yet the fact remains that past 100yds, atmospherics tend to clutter up the testing for shooters that can't cycle their actions fast enough to stay in proper control of the condition. This is especially evident out here in the prairie where the wind blows constantly. So there is a specific reality to what will produce consistent success which depends on experience level as well as where the shooting is being done. Perhaps what we're really talking about here is what "can" work, versus what will be virtually guaranteed to work for everyone all of the time. Every time I push shooters out in 100yd increments, the demand on the shooter becomes exponentially greater for every hundred yards added. Mental aspects, optic limitations, atmospheric considerations, ballistic effects. It all increases in a non-linear fashion at some yardage. It's easy to see how I'm expected to provide techniques that will absolutely work, rather than what "can" work. Over the years I've made a concentrated effort to boil down the methods to provide guaranteed results. Lots of rounds fired to learn it. I'm currently loading for 17 cartridges among my own rifles which I'm trying to cull drastically. As you're seemingly aware... that can be demanding. Lots of ways that can work, but usually only one best way. Sometimes that can be super hard to quantify. Other times it's pretty easy. Thanks for your perspective. ----------- [URL='https://www.instagram.com/primalrights']Follow on Instagram[/URL] [URL='https://www.youtube.com/user/primalrights']Subscribe on YouTube[/URL] [URL='https://amzn.to/3txlBnp']Amazon Affiliate[/URL] [URL='http://www.primalrights.com'][IMG]http://primalrights.com/images/signatures/sig1.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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