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<blockquote data-quote="Mysticplayer" data-source="post: 53578" data-attributes="member: 8947"><p>Mountaineer, remember that to 90% of the hunting population, LR starts on the far side of 250yds and the near side of 400yds. Some of the rifle on this board can't adjust for that close. When we talk of LR we are talking a long ways out. </p><p></p><p>The key here is impact vel. Premium hunting bullets are designed for very high impact vel (2500fps and higher), softpoints 2000 to 2800fps, match like Amax and Sierra (1500 to 2500fps). As long as the bullets are kept in the design range, they work very well. When driven faster or slower, poor results occur.</p><p></p><p>We use "match" bullets because at LR our impact vel are comparatively low. Bullets will not blow up when impact vels drop under 2500fps, even when striking bone. Most of the time the impact vels are in the teens so reg. hunting bullets could be a liability as they probably will not expand.</p><p></p><p>Bullet engineers simply do not plan for impact vel just above the speed of sound. Why bother for the few guys that hunt with 45-70's?</p><p></p><p>Anyways, my testing with Amax have shown that they are still a very tough bullet. At 70yds and an impact vel just under 3100fps, the 30 cal 168gr Amax went through two water filled milk jugs and split the third. A Nosler BT went through all three. So much for "soft" bullets.</p><p></p><p>Out of a 308, a 155gr Amax at 2850fps muzzle vel went clean through a 5/16" mild steel gong at 385yds. That should break the skin on most NA deer, I think.</p><p></p><p>Remember that fragile bullets are a relative thing. Slow any bullet down, to a point, and it will go cleanly through any animal with good expansion.</p><p></p><p>For your RUM, the 162SST and 168gr MK would get my nod. Launch them 3000 to 3200fps, or whatever will give you the necessary accuracy and if you hit something properly, it will go down. You will be very impressed with the expansion/penetration at long range.</p><p></p><p>Good luck...</p><p></p><p>Jerry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mysticplayer, post: 53578, member: 8947"] Mountaineer, remember that to 90% of the hunting population, LR starts on the far side of 250yds and the near side of 400yds. Some of the rifle on this board can't adjust for that close. When we talk of LR we are talking a long ways out. The key here is impact vel. Premium hunting bullets are designed for very high impact vel (2500fps and higher), softpoints 2000 to 2800fps, match like Amax and Sierra (1500 to 2500fps). As long as the bullets are kept in the design range, they work very well. When driven faster or slower, poor results occur. We use "match" bullets because at LR our impact vel are comparatively low. Bullets will not blow up when impact vels drop under 2500fps, even when striking bone. Most of the time the impact vels are in the teens so reg. hunting bullets could be a liability as they probably will not expand. Bullet engineers simply do not plan for impact vel just above the speed of sound. Why bother for the few guys that hunt with 45-70's? Anyways, my testing with Amax have shown that they are still a very tough bullet. At 70yds and an impact vel just under 3100fps, the 30 cal 168gr Amax went through two water filled milk jugs and split the third. A Nosler BT went through all three. So much for "soft" bullets. Out of a 308, a 155gr Amax at 2850fps muzzle vel went clean through a 5/16" mild steel gong at 385yds. That should break the skin on most NA deer, I think. Remember that fragile bullets are a relative thing. Slow any bullet down, to a point, and it will go cleanly through any animal with good expansion. For your RUM, the 162SST and 168gr MK would get my nod. Launch them 3000 to 3200fps, or whatever will give you the necessary accuracy and if you hit something properly, it will go down. You will be very impressed with the expansion/penetration at long range. Good luck... Jerry [/QUOTE]
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