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<blockquote data-quote="ceg1963" data-source="post: 72691" data-attributes="member: 4159"><p>Longtooth, You are absolutely right in your position on this discussion. Some amateur with lots of money to burn, probably shot it at under 200 yards, and still missed. </p><p></p><p>I agree, you should never pull the trigger unless you can handle the situation/consequences. I can not imagine taking a longish shot at such a magestic animal unless the conditions are absolutely just right. I mean a zero wind value, a confirmed known range to the bear, the bear is calm and still, enough time before dark to handle the carcass once its down, and I am trained and equipped with enough gun to body slam his ***.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, just for reference and not bragging, I can put 5 shots, fired in rapid fire succesion, into a 2 inch group at 600 yards. Anytime, anywhere, under most favorable conditions. That from a minimally modified "factory stock" Remington Sendero in .300 Win Mag. Many here can do even better than that at 600 I am sure. Hell, so can I with a more specialized equipment set-up.</p><p></p><p>I think most would agree, especially bear guides, that most of the people hunting the big bears today can't even do that at 100 yards under field conditions, let alone 600 yards. But they still take the shots afforded them out to 200 yards or so and some even longer, and not many here would think them unethical. Your bear is probably a victim of that technique.</p><p></p><p>No, a hunter that is properly equipped and extensively trained can execute bear at reasonable ranges. IMHO Properly equipped being defined as a man armed with a rifle that is capable of delivering sub-MOA performance all of the time, toting 2000 FPs or more of lethal energy. </p><p></p><p>Rest assured, if and when I break the round, I will not wound one... if that is your concern.</p><p></p><p>CG</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ceg1963, post: 72691, member: 4159"] Longtooth, You are absolutely right in your position on this discussion. Some amateur with lots of money to burn, probably shot it at under 200 yards, and still missed. I agree, you should never pull the trigger unless you can handle the situation/consequences. I can not imagine taking a longish shot at such a magestic animal unless the conditions are absolutely just right. I mean a zero wind value, a confirmed known range to the bear, the bear is calm and still, enough time before dark to handle the carcass once its down, and I am trained and equipped with enough gun to body slam his ***. Having said that, just for reference and not bragging, I can put 5 shots, fired in rapid fire succesion, into a 2 inch group at 600 yards. Anytime, anywhere, under most favorable conditions. That from a minimally modified "factory stock" Remington Sendero in .300 Win Mag. Many here can do even better than that at 600 I am sure. Hell, so can I with a more specialized equipment set-up. I think most would agree, especially bear guides, that most of the people hunting the big bears today can't even do that at 100 yards under field conditions, let alone 600 yards. But they still take the shots afforded them out to 200 yards or so and some even longer, and not many here would think them unethical. Your bear is probably a victim of that technique. No, a hunter that is properly equipped and extensively trained can execute bear at reasonable ranges. IMHO Properly equipped being defined as a man armed with a rifle that is capable of delivering sub-MOA performance all of the time, toting 2000 FPs or more of lethal energy. Rest assured, if and when I break the round, I will not wound one... if that is your concern. CG [/QUOTE]
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