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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 202754" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Consistent long range bowhunting requires a combination of way more talent and knowledge of the animals than any average person could ever attain. It takes a lifetime of working in and around animals learning their habits and traits. This is the hardest part. Then you must have the god given talent with the bow. Then you must research every aspect of your set up to give the best downrange performance (accuracy, speed, penetration, etc.). It takes many years becoming a pro at all of these to take animals consistently at long range. I took my first deer with a bow in the 60's and became an exceptional traditional archer (barebow recurve) before compounds came on the market. By the late 80's I had taken virtually all north american big game with a bow except the sheep which I could never draw for. I have taken numerous animals consistently at exceptional ranges and know what it takes to do it. If you do not have years to learn game habits it is impossible to do consistently. A lot the same as being a good long ranger with a rifle. I know what the animal is going to do before he does. I know when he is about to move. If you don't then don't try this. I know what his ears say, what his posture says, what his tail is saying, what his tongue is saying, what his eyes are saying, what his legs are saying, etc. If you don't then don't try this. </p><p></p><p>Then not only have you got to be accurate at long range which is the easy part, you have got to know how to equip your arrow to retain velocity at extended ranges while stabilizing the broadhead (ain't easy). Then one that will penetrate the likes of an elk at long range consistently. I did all of that testing all kinds of stuff to get the answers. The truth will surprise most archers. Like rifles heavy and stiff is optimum. For instance the best penetrating broadheads will not fly consistently in fast bows combined with the wind out west along with a thousand other problems with trying to do this. Your arrow must be heavy, stiff, fast and retain velocity well (fletching) plus have a broadhead that will penetrate well while not planing at high speed particularly in the wind. You good archers out there know what I am talking about. Some of those are maybe double negatives, well you can have one but not the other. You have got to figure a set up where you have it all and to do it properly you are dang near defying the laws of physics. I am talking plus 100 yard kills.</p><p></p><p>Yes it can be done consistently because I was there and did it and when I meet anyone else in the world who can I shake their hand in appreciation because I know what they went through to get to that point. So far I haven't met many. Mainly just a bunch who thought they could. Long range bowhunting is not something you just go out and do. It takes a lifetime of dedication. Please don't get me wrong, I am not saying others are not out there, I am just saying I haven't met many and am just trying to get across how rare an individual this would be. I have guided world champion archers who consistently shoot microscopic groups at well over a hundred yards and miss antelope and elk at twenty steps. </p><p></p><p>I saw in some of the posts a few guys that have been doing this a long time and had good points they would not know unless they have done this. There is some good info through there. JECustom, my first compound was a PSE Citation 4 wheeler Pete Shepley came out with to compete directly with the Jennings. Both were solid bows for the era but that dang arrowstar was to heavy for me to backpack with. Got to meet and hunt with Pete later on and he is a nice guy, unlike many try to make him out to be. Matter of fact my first world championship shoot in Las Vegas was with one of his bows about 25 years ago.</p><p></p><p>I know you guys don't know who I am and probably think I am just another jerk on the internet, but I guarantee I know what I am talking about. Wounding loss is not something we need in any kind of hunting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 202754, member: 505"] Consistent long range bowhunting requires a combination of way more talent and knowledge of the animals than any average person could ever attain. It takes a lifetime of working in and around animals learning their habits and traits. This is the hardest part. Then you must have the god given talent with the bow. Then you must research every aspect of your set up to give the best downrange performance (accuracy, speed, penetration, etc.). It takes many years becoming a pro at all of these to take animals consistently at long range. I took my first deer with a bow in the 60's and became an exceptional traditional archer (barebow recurve) before compounds came on the market. By the late 80's I had taken virtually all north american big game with a bow except the sheep which I could never draw for. I have taken numerous animals consistently at exceptional ranges and know what it takes to do it. If you do not have years to learn game habits it is impossible to do consistently. A lot the same as being a good long ranger with a rifle. I know what the animal is going to do before he does. I know when he is about to move. If you don't then don't try this. I know what his ears say, what his posture says, what his tail is saying, what his tongue is saying, what his eyes are saying, what his legs are saying, etc. If you don't then don't try this. Then not only have you got to be accurate at long range which is the easy part, you have got to know how to equip your arrow to retain velocity at extended ranges while stabilizing the broadhead (ain't easy). Then one that will penetrate the likes of an elk at long range consistently. I did all of that testing all kinds of stuff to get the answers. The truth will surprise most archers. Like rifles heavy and stiff is optimum. For instance the best penetrating broadheads will not fly consistently in fast bows combined with the wind out west along with a thousand other problems with trying to do this. Your arrow must be heavy, stiff, fast and retain velocity well (fletching) plus have a broadhead that will penetrate well while not planing at high speed particularly in the wind. You good archers out there know what I am talking about. Some of those are maybe double negatives, well you can have one but not the other. You have got to figure a set up where you have it all and to do it properly you are dang near defying the laws of physics. I am talking plus 100 yard kills. Yes it can be done consistently because I was there and did it and when I meet anyone else in the world who can I shake their hand in appreciation because I know what they went through to get to that point. So far I haven't met many. Mainly just a bunch who thought they could. Long range bowhunting is not something you just go out and do. It takes a lifetime of dedication. Please don't get me wrong, I am not saying others are not out there, I am just saying I haven't met many and am just trying to get across how rare an individual this would be. I have guided world champion archers who consistently shoot microscopic groups at well over a hundred yards and miss antelope and elk at twenty steps. I saw in some of the posts a few guys that have been doing this a long time and had good points they would not know unless they have done this. There is some good info through there. JECustom, my first compound was a PSE Citation 4 wheeler Pete Shepley came out with to compete directly with the Jennings. Both were solid bows for the era but that dang arrowstar was to heavy for me to backpack with. Got to meet and hunt with Pete later on and he is a nice guy, unlike many try to make him out to be. Matter of fact my first world championship shoot in Las Vegas was with one of his bows about 25 years ago. I know you guys don't know who I am and probably think I am just another jerk on the internet, but I guarantee I know what I am talking about. Wounding loss is not something we need in any kind of hunting. [/QUOTE]
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