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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 837288" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>I was involved very heavily in the FCSA when California voted to ban the 50 BMGs in their state with a focus on the Barrett M82A1 as an example. Caused a serious stir in the 50 cal community. There were several instances where Ronny Barrett was interviewed by FCSA members and flat out said that the 416 Barrett was released to counter the Califonia Ban on his rifles.</p><p> </p><p>Yes his son was the designer of the round but it was released by Ronny Barrett as he was the Head of the company at that time. I am not saying the round was not designed for other reasons but I am saying that it was released to the CIVILAN market within MONTHS after California banned the 50 BMG class weapon systems. When asked of this had anything to do with the Cal ban he stated many times it was certainly to counter this ban that was indirectly focused on his semi-auto 50 BMG rifles.</p><p> </p><p>Barrett has always had military contracts and products not available to the civilian market and that stands true today. Most of which still are not available for civilian purchase. His decision to release the 416 Barrett to the public again has a large part to do with the California gun ban. This was simply because it would require nothing other then rebarreling his current rifles that were available to the public so no real overhead to get rifles heading to California again.</p><p> </p><p>These are not opinion, these were comments directly from Barrett made to interviews with FCSA for their magazine VERY HIGH POWER. Not sure why it offends you so much.</p><p> </p><p>As far as what the 408 CheyTac class weapons systems will do compared to the 416 Barrett, they do extremely well, especially when you use a wildcat based on that case. You can get within 100 fps of the Barrett and do so with 30 grains less powder and in rifle and ammo that weighs nearly 1/2 as much, that right there would be the reason why the 416 Barrett failed to secure a military contract.</p><p> </p><p>As far as the 50 BMG not being legal to use in war against human targets...... Where did you get that. There are stories all over hell about US, Canadian and UK snipers using the 50 BMG for long range sniping using specialized single shot precision rifles. If this was not legal, I am pretty sure they would not be able to report on these long range kills on the enemy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 837288, member: 10"] I was involved very heavily in the FCSA when California voted to ban the 50 BMGs in their state with a focus on the Barrett M82A1 as an example. Caused a serious stir in the 50 cal community. There were several instances where Ronny Barrett was interviewed by FCSA members and flat out said that the 416 Barrett was released to counter the Califonia Ban on his rifles. Yes his son was the designer of the round but it was released by Ronny Barrett as he was the Head of the company at that time. I am not saying the round was not designed for other reasons but I am saying that it was released to the CIVILAN market within MONTHS after California banned the 50 BMG class weapon systems. When asked of this had anything to do with the Cal ban he stated many times it was certainly to counter this ban that was indirectly focused on his semi-auto 50 BMG rifles. Barrett has always had military contracts and products not available to the civilian market and that stands true today. Most of which still are not available for civilian purchase. His decision to release the 416 Barrett to the public again has a large part to do with the California gun ban. This was simply because it would require nothing other then rebarreling his current rifles that were available to the public so no real overhead to get rifles heading to California again. These are not opinion, these were comments directly from Barrett made to interviews with FCSA for their magazine VERY HIGH POWER. Not sure why it offends you so much. As far as what the 408 CheyTac class weapons systems will do compared to the 416 Barrett, they do extremely well, especially when you use a wildcat based on that case. You can get within 100 fps of the Barrett and do so with 30 grains less powder and in rifle and ammo that weighs nearly 1/2 as much, that right there would be the reason why the 416 Barrett failed to secure a military contract. As far as the 50 BMG not being legal to use in war against human targets...... Where did you get that. There are stories all over hell about US, Canadian and UK snipers using the 50 BMG for long range sniping using specialized single shot precision rifles. If this was not legal, I am pretty sure they would not be able to report on these long range kills on the enemy. [/QUOTE]
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