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<blockquote data-quote="snowypeakoutdoors" data-source="post: 1718817" data-attributes="member: 109317"><p>thinair...I thought we were here to discuss calibers, bullets, etc as well until you started talking about how well learned you are and then talked about how brilliant your family is and your comment was "drop the mic" end of discussion...all while being rude and condescending to others. Now you want to ban members who retort such things? Pretty ironic I would say. I already contributed to this thread prior to your statements.</p><p>As far as your opinions, you are not wrong in the fact that "even 243 and 115vlds" will kill elk...Of course they will. So will a 22lr if you hit them in the right place. Bottom line though, is that the bigger, higher energy cartridges are more forgiving than the smaller ones and that they definitely cause more damage. No, nothing bigger than a 280ai is "needed" but there is certainly nothing wrong with more. I prefer more, but hey what do I know right? I would like to see your statistical analysis of lost animals shot with bigger calibers at long range, as well as the figures you have accumulated about old schoolers not being able to hit the broad side of the barn vs "folks with 7mms, 6.5s, and 243s." Other mitigating factors are just as important. For instance, I can shoot my Sako TRG42 more accurately at any range than I can my Savage Axis in 243...as well as stay on target with it. How is that possible?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="snowypeakoutdoors, post: 1718817, member: 109317"] thinair...I thought we were here to discuss calibers, bullets, etc as well until you started talking about how well learned you are and then talked about how brilliant your family is and your comment was "drop the mic" end of discussion...all while being rude and condescending to others. Now you want to ban members who retort such things? Pretty ironic I would say. I already contributed to this thread prior to your statements. As far as your opinions, you are not wrong in the fact that "even 243 and 115vlds" will kill elk...Of course they will. So will a 22lr if you hit them in the right place. Bottom line though, is that the bigger, higher energy cartridges are more forgiving than the smaller ones and that they definitely cause more damage. No, nothing bigger than a 280ai is "needed" but there is certainly nothing wrong with more. I prefer more, but hey what do I know right? I would like to see your statistical analysis of lost animals shot with bigger calibers at long range, as well as the figures you have accumulated about old schoolers not being able to hit the broad side of the barn vs "folks with 7mms, 6.5s, and 243s." Other mitigating factors are just as important. For instance, I can shoot my Sako TRG42 more accurately at any range than I can my Savage Axis in 243...as well as stay on target with it. How is that possible? [/QUOTE]
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