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Light Varmint, where are you?
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<blockquote data-quote="Lightvarmint" data-source="post: 237410"><p>GG,</p><p></p><p>I know from the title of your thread that you are extremely anxious (probably sitting on the edge of your computer commando chair) to get the real live meat test results of the HAT bullets..... Well here it is as you requested and you owe Mr Tilley some money (Benjamins I think it was). The bullets expand predictably on even our smallish SC deer (even without hitting a bone) as they worked very well on the live meat test the other day. Seems as though sand boxes, phone books and plywood did not replicate the resistance of a live game animal with blood pressure present during bullet impacts. BTW, Army ordnance testers found this out several decades ago and that is why they used goats to test small arm ammunition. So with this actual meat test we proved three theories:</p><p></p><p>--We proved that the bullets worked as intended and designed.</p><p></p><p>--We proved that the above testing media (sandboxes, phonebooks and plywood) does not replicate live animal results.</p><p></p><p>--Wet clay formed to the desired dimensions of the penetration test is very close to live animal results. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, the bullet worked flawlessly (complete penetration, no blowup and excellent wound channel). In other words a bang-flop and the deer never took a step. It was a 405 yard shot from 24" factory 300 Win Mag Sendero special using a .308 180 grainer.</p><p></p><p>Even when I tried my first new fancy projectile or loaded ammo offering for the first time out of my guns on wild game, it was always an act of faith. Since there is always a first time, you never really know until it is attempted and proved one way or another by someone! I am sure the same thing will occur with the new bullet offerings and designs in the future.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, they work very well, thanks for your interest and have a nice day.</p><p></p><p>James</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lightvarmint, post: 237410"] GG, I know from the title of your thread that you are extremely anxious (probably sitting on the edge of your computer commando chair) to get the real live meat test results of the HAT bullets..... Well here it is as you requested and you owe Mr Tilley some money (Benjamins I think it was). The bullets expand predictably on even our smallish SC deer (even without hitting a bone) as they worked very well on the live meat test the other day. Seems as though sand boxes, phone books and plywood did not replicate the resistance of a live game animal with blood pressure present during bullet impacts. BTW, Army ordnance testers found this out several decades ago and that is why they used goats to test small arm ammunition. So with this actual meat test we proved three theories: --We proved that the bullets worked as intended and designed. --We proved that the above testing media (sandboxes, phonebooks and plywood) does not replicate live animal results. --Wet clay formed to the desired dimensions of the penetration test is very close to live animal results. Anyway, the bullet worked flawlessly (complete penetration, no blowup and excellent wound channel). In other words a bang-flop and the deer never took a step. It was a 405 yard shot from 24" factory 300 Win Mag Sendero special using a .308 180 grainer. Even when I tried my first new fancy projectile or loaded ammo offering for the first time out of my guns on wild game, it was always an act of faith. Since there is always a first time, you never really know until it is attempted and proved one way or another by someone! I am sure the same thing will occur with the new bullet offerings and designs in the future. Anyway, they work very well, thanks for your interest and have a nice day. James [/QUOTE]
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