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Leupold Vs Vortex Viper
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<blockquote data-quote="RonS" data-source="post: 1056232" data-attributes="member: 68613"><p>This is not directed at you but at a broader audience who don't really know what quality optics are and what the characteristics of those optics should be. I see these kinds of comments far too regularly to let it go. So here goes, I regret to inform you that those heat waves you see are what is referred to as mirage. Reading mirage is essential for long range shooting when the wind speeds are less than 8-10 mph. After that it flattens out and can no longer be useful. Other indicators are required. Be that as it may, people pay thousands of dollars for fluorite spotting scopes (Kowa, leica, Zeiss) and rifle scopes (Schmidt & Bender, IOR Valdata) with the clarity necessary to read mirage cleanly in competition and in the field. The ability to read mirage clearly is one indicator of quality optical components. I can buy a 20 year old Tasco or Bushnell or a BSA or an NCStar for under $100 that will hide mirage if that is what I wanted to do. It's not, I want to be able to read conditions as accurately as is possible because I know that a 10 mph cross wind will push a .308 bullet 108 inches off target at 1000 yards (given some of the more common .308 loads). If the mirage is running at say 45 degrees and the wind is coming from 90 degrees, I know just how many minutes I need to adjust to get the bullet in the X ring. Lot more to wind reading than that but hopefully the point has been made. Be thankful that you can see the mirage and pity your friend who can't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RonS, post: 1056232, member: 68613"] This is not directed at you but at a broader audience who don't really know what quality optics are and what the characteristics of those optics should be. I see these kinds of comments far too regularly to let it go. So here goes, I regret to inform you that those heat waves you see are what is referred to as mirage. Reading mirage is essential for long range shooting when the wind speeds are less than 8-10 mph. After that it flattens out and can no longer be useful. Other indicators are required. Be that as it may, people pay thousands of dollars for fluorite spotting scopes (Kowa, leica, Zeiss) and rifle scopes (Schmidt & Bender, IOR Valdata) with the clarity necessary to read mirage cleanly in competition and in the field. The ability to read mirage clearly is one indicator of quality optical components. I can buy a 20 year old Tasco or Bushnell or a BSA or an NCStar for under $100 that will hide mirage if that is what I wanted to do. It's not, I want to be able to read conditions as accurately as is possible because I know that a 10 mph cross wind will push a .308 bullet 108 inches off target at 1000 yards (given some of the more common .308 loads). If the mirage is running at say 45 degrees and the wind is coming from 90 degrees, I know just how many minutes I need to adjust to get the bullet in the X ring. Lot more to wind reading than that but hopefully the point has been made. Be thankful that you can see the mirage and pity your friend who can't. [/QUOTE]
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