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Leupold or Sightron???
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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 266320" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>David, </p><p></p><p>This isn't apples to apples. I'm saying the Sightron SIII smokes the Leupold VX-3 for the same cost. I would be willing to pay 50% more to obtain the Sightron SIII (if that were the going price and a VX-3 was my only other option) above and beyond the cost of Leupold VX-3. However the SIII costs about the same (based on your cost quote - I don't track Leupy cost or values, except to sell my used ones). In addition, Leupold is not the sole source of competent rifle scopes.</p><p></p><p>The Vortex Viper is the equal of the Leupold VX-3 for $500. Hey - If it's important, you could always write "<em>Leupold</em>" on the Viper with a permanent felt pen and wrap a piece of gold-colored tinsel around the objective. Maybe cover it with a Leupold embroidered ScopeCoat too.</p><p>____________________________________________</p><p><strong>Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 PA Riflescope</strong></p><p><u>Magnification</u> How many times larger an object is magnified versus the naked eye. 6.5-20x </p><p><u>Objective Lens Diameter</u> The diameter of the light-gathering lens expressed in millimeters. The larger the number the better the resolution and the more light the optic lets in. 50mm </p><p><u>Linear FOV at 100 Yards</u> The linear field of view at the widest dimension of the circular viewing area at 100 Yards away. 17.4-6.2 feet </p><p><u>Eye Relief</u> Eye relief refers to the distance images are projected from the ocular lens to their focal point. 3.3-3.1 inches </p><p><u>Tube Size</u> 30mm </p><p><u>Reticle Styles</u> V-Plex Wide </p><p>Dead-Hold BDC </p><p>Target Dot </p><p>Mil Dot </p><p> </p><p><u>Turret Style</u> Tall Target </p><p><u>Adjustment Graduation</u> 1/4 MOA </p><p><u>Max Internal Elevation Adjustment</u> 68 MOA </p><p><u>Max Internal Windage Adjustment</u> 68 MOA </p><p><u>Parallax Setting</u> 50 to Infinity yards </p><p><u>Optical Coatings</u> Fully multi-coated </p><p><u>Length</u> 14.4 inches </p><p><u>Waterproof</u> Yes </p><p>Fog Proof Argon gas </p><p><u>Color</u> Black </p><p><u>Finish</u> Matte </p><p><u>Weight</u> 21.6 ounces </p><p>SKU Stock Keeping Unit VPR-M-06FP </p><p><u>MSRP (USD)</u> Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price (US Dollars) $589.00 </p><p><strong>Commonly available for $500.00</strong></p><p></p><p><u>Warranty</u>:</p><p></p><p>"<em>Vortex pledges this Very Important Promise to you, a Very Important Person, and that's why we call it the VIP warranty. In the event that your Vortex product requires service, no matter the cause*, Vortex Optics will repair or replace the product at no charge to you.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>**The VIP warranty does not include occurrences of loss, theft, deliberate damage, nor damage as a result of unauthorized repair, modification, or disassembly. Vortex Optics reserves the right to replace warranted products with a product of similar value and/or specifications in the event that the original product is no longer manufactured or has been discontinued. There are no warranty cards to fill out, and the VIP warranty is completely transferable.</em>"</p><p>_________________________________________</p><p>David: I may be reading it wrong, but your post comes off as presumptive that I owe you a more complete answer or explanation. Understand that I'm much more concerned with the scope I use than the one(s) you choose/use. I used Leupold scopes for more than 25 years. Leupold doesn't need to change anything and they'll keep selling scopes based on their longevity, reputation, and brand name alone for many years, in spite of the fact that there are better values available. They'll have some time to up the quality of the glass in their optics before they lose a serious percentage of scope sales to the competition. But they drag their feet too long and their market position could suffer. </p><p></p><p>I've completed my scope research for the time being. Leupold's brand name, legacy, or products don't currently equate to compelling value in light of my research and side by side product comparisons. You can always research this further on your own. </p><p></p><p>All in all, it may simply be less complicated or emotional to just stick with the Leupies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 266320, member: 4191"] David, This isn't apples to apples. I'm saying the Sightron SIII smokes the Leupold VX-3 for the same cost. I would be willing to pay 50% more to obtain the Sightron SIII (if that were the going price and a VX-3 was my only other option) above and beyond the cost of Leupold VX-3. However the SIII costs about the same (based on your cost quote - I don't track Leupy cost or values, except to sell my used ones). In addition, Leupold is not the sole source of competent rifle scopes. The Vortex Viper is the equal of the Leupold VX-3 for $500. Hey - If it's important, you could always write "[I]Leupold[/I]" on the Viper with a permanent felt pen and wrap a piece of gold-colored tinsel around the objective. Maybe cover it with a Leupold embroidered ScopeCoat too. ____________________________________________ [B]Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 PA Riflescope[/B] [U]Magnification[/U] How many times larger an object is magnified versus the naked eye. 6.5-20x [U]Objective Lens Diameter[/U] The diameter of the light-gathering lens expressed in millimeters. The larger the number the better the resolution and the more light the optic lets in. 50mm [U]Linear FOV at 100 Yards[/U] The linear field of view at the widest dimension of the circular viewing area at 100 Yards away. 17.4-6.2 feet [U]Eye Relief[/U] Eye relief refers to the distance images are projected from the ocular lens to their focal point. 3.3-3.1 inches [U]Tube Size[/U] 30mm [U]Reticle Styles[/U] V-Plex Wide Dead-Hold BDC Target Dot Mil Dot [U]Turret Style[/U] Tall Target [U]Adjustment Graduation[/U] 1/4 MOA [U]Max Internal Elevation Adjustment[/U] 68 MOA [U]Max Internal Windage Adjustment[/U] 68 MOA [U]Parallax Setting[/U] 50 to Infinity yards [U]Optical Coatings[/U] Fully multi-coated [U]Length[/U] 14.4 inches [U]Waterproof[/U] Yes Fog Proof Argon gas [U]Color[/U] Black [U]Finish[/U] Matte [U]Weight[/U] 21.6 ounces SKU Stock Keeping Unit VPR-M-06FP [U]MSRP (USD)[/U] Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price (US Dollars) $589.00 [B]Commonly available for $500.00[/B] [U]Warranty[/U]: "[I]Vortex pledges this Very Important Promise to you, a Very Important Person, and that's why we call it the VIP warranty. In the event that your Vortex product requires service, no matter the cause*, Vortex Optics will repair or replace the product at no charge to you. **The VIP warranty does not include occurrences of loss, theft, deliberate damage, nor damage as a result of unauthorized repair, modification, or disassembly. Vortex Optics reserves the right to replace warranted products with a product of similar value and/or specifications in the event that the original product is no longer manufactured or has been discontinued. There are no warranty cards to fill out, and the VIP warranty is completely transferable.[/I]" _________________________________________ David: I may be reading it wrong, but your post comes off as presumptive that I owe you a more complete answer or explanation. Understand that I'm much more concerned with the scope I use than the one(s) you choose/use. I used Leupold scopes for more than 25 years. Leupold doesn't need to change anything and they'll keep selling scopes based on their longevity, reputation, and brand name alone for many years, in spite of the fact that there are better values available. They'll have some time to up the quality of the glass in their optics before they lose a serious percentage of scope sales to the competition. But they drag their feet too long and their market position could suffer. I've completed my scope research for the time being. Leupold's brand name, legacy, or products don't currently equate to compelling value in light of my research and side by side product comparisons. You can always research this further on your own. All in all, it may simply be less complicated or emotional to just stick with the Leupies. [/QUOTE]
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